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Subject: Re: Junior5's inability to see underpromotions.

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 09:35:32 12/19/98

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On December 19, 1998 at 12:16:28, Matthew Herman wrote:

>On December 19, 1998 at 11:32:03, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On December 19, 1998 at 10:58:38, Matthew Herman wrote:
>>
>>>Although amir ban didn't consider this important enough to include in Junior5
>>>(nothing against him or his program .. its VERY strong), it is useful is certain
>>>positions, albeit very few, but still important.. for instance the famous
>>>endgame study w/ saaevedra .. W: Kc7, pc7 B: ka1 Rd4 .. white mates in 8 with
>>>c8=R!! but junior5 cannot see this because of that limitiation.. obviously
>>>promotion to a R is the ONLY way to win.. as c8=q is met by Rc4+!! and draws..
>>>
>>>Matt Herman
>>>
>>>I was wondering maybe if Amir could build a small patch that allows junior to
>>>see this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>Hello Matt,
>>Did you see my post on December 17 about the game Junior lost to Nimzo99a?
>>Re:
>>Junior 5.0 vs Nimzo 99a (Two under promotions) posted by James T. Walker on
>>December 17, 1998 at 11:35:21:
>>Jim Walker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>Yes I did.. this was basically kind of in response to that.
>Secondly I AM NOT trying to find faults in junior5 or amir ban's style of
>programming.
>
>I didn't do this to assault or criticize him.. and yes Junior is an EXTREMELY
>fast searcher.. frequently getting up to "21 ply" although I heard to get the
>correct approximate of that you have to multiply by 2/3rds .. still 7 moves deep
>is extremely deep as fritz only gets do about 11 ply or 12 in the same amount of
>time..
>
>Matt

Does a manual that came with the software say 2/3 then?  I had thought it was
counting half-plies.

Dave Gomboc



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