Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 08:15:57 05/29/04
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On May 29, 2004 at 00:13:20, enrico carrisco wrote: >On May 28, 2004 at 22:37:13, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On May 28, 2004 at 20:57:06, enrico carrisco wrote: >> >>>On May 28, 2004 at 18:20:55, Slater Wold wrote: >>> >>>>On May 28, 2004 at 18:04:16, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 17:50:22, Slater Wold wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Not to mention other "commercial" authors who have participated in CCT. >>>>> >>>>>Hmm, I remember Junior being in, and Amir certainly has put up the >>>>>challenge to Bob a few times (the 10x hardware thing comes to mind). >>>> >>>>Which he lost. Meaning both the 10x hardware thing & CCT6. >>>> >>>>>Enrico was also in with Hiarcs. >>>> >>>>Which came in AFTER Crafty in CCT6. >>> >>>Let's keep it in perspective, Slate. I started the thread of support for Crafty >>>and completely agree Crafty has good chances. However, what you quote above: >>>Hiarcs ranked 2nd to Crafty after a blitz playoff (no blitz playoffs in WCCC.) >>>Hiarcs ran on less than 25% of the CPU power and Hiarcs didn't drop a single >>>game to Crafty in the tournament. >>> >>>I said it before CCT6 even began and will say it now -- 5+3 blitz to settle >>>tie-breaks in a tournament is foolish, especially considering such statements as >>>above get made. >>> >>>-elc. >> >>Hey... I have said that same thing more than once myself. :) I don't like >>blitz games to break a standard time control tournament. Makes no sense. And I >>have not said that I have great chances to win, that I think I will win, or any >>other such statement. I _did_ say that Crafty is going to be a handful for >>_anybody_. And that is certainly true. The game vs Hiarcs in CCT6 was really >>dictated by Crafty if you recall, and it did its best to create winning chances >>and almost did. That shows that the search speed was enough to cope... >> >>Of course it _can_ lose every game. And, on occasion I am sure there has been a >>flying pig also. :) >> > >Bob, I hope you understand my point. Just as my post said originally and above >-- I feel you *DO* have good chances and knowing how you'll prepare, I say that >with even greater confidence. > >My point above was just stating my dislike for blitz matches settling such a >tournament when the end result is being remembered as "finishing AFTER" such and >such program (when tied before the blitz portion.) No one remembers the blitz >part -- just the final rankings.... (and the assumption is obvious.) > >-elc. Of course. That is why I always write "Crafty won the first CCT event, and tied for first at the last two. I wouldn't _begin_ to predict Crafty will win the WCCC. But I would certainly take issue with anyone that says it has _no_ chance.. That is simply unrealistic in the extreme, and is really just hyperbole. But we'll see whether it plays well or poorly pretty soon then we can discuss how/why it did well or poorly, rather than if it will do poorly or not. :)
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