Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 08:23:48 05/29/04
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On May 29, 2004 at 11:18:13, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 29, 2004 at 02:32:20, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On May 28, 2004 at 16:45:57, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On May 28, 2004 at 15:34:13, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>> >>>>On May 28, 2004 at 13:25:46, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 13:02:56, Slater Wold wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 12:44:38, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 12:29:01, Peter Skinner wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 10:22:23, Slater Wold wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 08:45:35, Mark Winands wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Author Program Country >>>>>>>>>>A. Ban and S. Bushinsky Junior Israel >>>>>>>>>>U. Blass Movei Israel >>>>>>>>>>R. Coulom The Crazy Bishop France >>>>>>>>>>O. David Tabibi Falcon Israel >>>>>>>>>>V. Diepeveen Diep Netherlands >>>>>>>>>>G.B.Garcia FIBChess Spain >>>>>>>>>>R. Huber ParSOS Germany >>>>>>>>>>R. Hyatt Crafty USA >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I need to start paying better attention I guess. What the hell is this?! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Oh my..I just got goose bumps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I guess we know the answer to Vincent's challenge to either "put up or shut >>>>>>>>up"... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>If Robert got anything like a 4 way or 8 way manhine, I think we might hear >>>>>>>>something like "Crafty has won the WCCC 2004!". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Peter >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Crafty will run on at least 4 X 2.4ghz opterons. Perhaps more. I'll post >>>>>>>details as they are worked out, but the 4-way is set now, as a worst-case... >>>>>> >>>>>>Who is operating Crafty? >>>>>> >>>>>>Should pull around 8M nps out of book. >>>>> >>>>>As a lower bound. If you check the CCT6 logs, it reached 11-12M many times, and >>>>>in some endings it broke 16M... >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>The funny thing is, no one ever takes Crafty seriously, but I bet I know at >>>>>>least 2 book-makers who are probably making anti-Crafty books right now. LOL >>>>>> >>>>>>This is gonna be neat... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>It'll be competitive. Winning is another matter. Particularly since I have >>>>>"zero percent chance of winning"... >>>>> >>>>>:) >>>> >>>>I am sorry to state this, but theorically you have chances and pratically you do >>>>not. >>>>Unless your hardware would be at least 10 times faster than Shredder, Junior and >>>>Fritz. In this case you would have some chances even if not many. >>> >>>I'll play your game. What hardware are you using? >> >>We do not know yet. > >That's pretty incredible. Well, not sure yet... >You have no idea what you will be running on, what I >will be running on, and irregardless of whatever hardware advantage I may end up >with, I have no chance? > >:) Well, it will not be 10 times...maybe twice...maybe not hardware advantage at all. > >Sounds like good, sound, logical reasoning to me... > > >> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>I know many will not like this, including yourself, but this is what I believe >>>>and I am not afraid of saying what I think, like it or not. >>>> >>>>I am not willing to explain why, so people can criticize as much as they want, >>>>but I will not change my mind. >>>> >>>>To win CCT or another tournament is something else as these are not considered >>>>of the same importance by the commercial programs. >>>> >>>>Sandro >>> >>> >>>Correct. It is always "some other tournament" that is more important. >> >>What I meant is the the real preparation is made for the WCCC. I mean all the >>improvements plans are made to be ready for that tournament, so in other >>tournaments the commercial programs would not be fully ready (fully updated) as >>for the WCCC. >> >>> >>>I try to win whatever ever I play in. >> >>I know. We do too, but...see above... >> >>> >>>If you think I have no chances, so be it. >> >>I have nothing against you. I told you and respect you and your work. I think >>you are a very good programmer. but I think the gap is still quite high... > >Hardware can narrow _any_ gap of course... > > >> >>> >>>I suspect my "reality" is significantly different from yours however. >> >>I guess so, too. >>Mine were "objective considerations" from my knowledge. >> >>> >>>We'll see in a month or two... >> >>Well, OK. >>I hope for you to be wrong. >> >>Sandro > >Same here. :)
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