Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 11:39:57 05/29/04
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On May 29, 2004 at 11:23:48, Sandro Necchi wrote: >On May 29, 2004 at 11:18:13, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On May 29, 2004 at 02:32:20, Sandro Necchi wrote: >> >>>On May 28, 2004 at 16:45:57, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On May 28, 2004 at 15:34:13, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 13:25:46, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 13:02:56, Slater Wold wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 12:44:38, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 12:29:01, Peter Skinner wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 10:22:23, Slater Wold wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On May 28, 2004 at 08:45:35, Mark Winands wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Author Program Country >>>>>>>>>>>A. Ban and S. Bushinsky Junior Israel >>>>>>>>>>>U. Blass Movei Israel >>>>>>>>>>>R. Coulom The Crazy Bishop France >>>>>>>>>>>O. David Tabibi Falcon Israel >>>>>>>>>>>V. Diepeveen Diep Netherlands >>>>>>>>>>>G.B.Garcia FIBChess Spain >>>>>>>>>>>R. Huber ParSOS Germany >>>>>>>>>>>R. Hyatt Crafty USA >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I need to start paying better attention I guess. What the hell is this?! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Oh my..I just got goose bumps. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I guess we know the answer to Vincent's challenge to either "put up or shut >>>>>>>>>up"... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>If Robert got anything like a 4 way or 8 way manhine, I think we might hear >>>>>>>>>something like "Crafty has won the WCCC 2004!". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Peter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Crafty will run on at least 4 X 2.4ghz opterons. Perhaps more. I'll post >>>>>>>>details as they are worked out, but the 4-way is set now, as a worst-case... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Who is operating Crafty? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Should pull around 8M nps out of book. >>>>>> >>>>>>As a lower bound. If you check the CCT6 logs, it reached 11-12M many times, and >>>>>>in some endings it broke 16M... >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The funny thing is, no one ever takes Crafty seriously, but I bet I know at >>>>>>>least 2 book-makers who are probably making anti-Crafty books right now. LOL >>>>>>> >>>>>>>This is gonna be neat... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>It'll be competitive. Winning is another matter. Particularly since I have >>>>>>"zero percent chance of winning"... >>>>>> >>>>>>:) >>>>> >>>>>I am sorry to state this, but theorically you have chances and pratically you do >>>>>not. >>>>>Unless your hardware would be at least 10 times faster than Shredder, Junior and >>>>>Fritz. In this case you would have some chances even if not many. >>>> >>>>I'll play your game. What hardware are you using? >>> >>>We do not know yet. >> >>That's pretty incredible. > >Well, not sure yet... > >>You have no idea what you will be running on, what I >>will be running on, and irregardless of whatever hardware advantage I may end up >>with, I have no chance? >> >>:) > >Well, it will not be 10 times...maybe twice...maybe not hardware advantage at >all. There's a good chance I will be on an 8-way opteron. If you are on something that fast, you'll be very strong too. If Shredder can deal with the NUMA issues on such a box... > >> >>Sounds like good, sound, logical reasoning to me... >> >> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>I know many will not like this, including yourself, but this is what I believe >>>>>and I am not afraid of saying what I think, like it or not. >>>>> >>>>>I am not willing to explain why, so people can criticize as much as they want, >>>>>but I will not change my mind. >>>>> >>>>>To win CCT or another tournament is something else as these are not considered >>>>>of the same importance by the commercial programs. >>>>> >>>>>Sandro >>>> >>>> >>>>Correct. It is always "some other tournament" that is more important. >>> >>>What I meant is the the real preparation is made for the WCCC. I mean all the >>>improvements plans are made to be ready for that tournament, so in other >>>tournaments the commercial programs would not be fully ready (fully updated) as >>>for the WCCC. >>> >>>> >>>>I try to win whatever ever I play in. >>> >>>I know. We do too, but...see above... >>> >>>> >>>>If you think I have no chances, so be it. >>> >>>I have nothing against you. I told you and respect you and your work. I think >>>you are a very good programmer. but I think the gap is still quite high... >> >>Hardware can narrow _any_ gap of course... >> >> >>> >>>> >>>>I suspect my "reality" is significantly different from yours however. >>> >>>I guess so, too. >>>Mine were "objective considerations" from my knowledge. >>> >>>> >>>>We'll see in a month or two... >>> >>>Well, OK. >>>I hope for you to be wrong. >>> >>>Sandro >> >>Same here. :)
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