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Subject: Re: Analysis by Shredder 8 using an Athlon 1.2 Ghz

Author: Derek Paquette

Date: 15:56:43 05/30/04

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On May 30, 2004 at 18:22:12, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote:

>On May 30, 2004 at 15:54:23, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On May 30, 2004 at 15:11:10, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On May 30, 2004 at 14:58:45, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>New game
>>>r2q1rk1/pp1bbppp/2n1pn2/3p4/2PP4/1P1B1N2/PB1N1PPP/2RQ1RK1 b - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>>
>>>1. ² (0.28): 1...Nh5 2.Re1 Nf4 3.Bb1 Qa5 4.Qc2 g6 5.Qc3 Qxc3 6.Rxc3 Bb4 7.Rce3
>>>Ba5
>>>2. ² (0.47): 1...Qa5 2.a3 dxc4 3.bxc4 Rad8 4.Qb3 Qh5 5.Rfe1 Na5 6.Qc2 Nc6 7.Ne4
>>>Ng4 8.Ng3
>>
>>So Shredder says it is .19 worse than Qa5, which _also_ looks a bit suspect...
>>
>>I'm not sure what this proves, if anything.  I personally like Nh5 better than
>>Qa5...  As black I'd like to start something on the king-side.  Whether it is f6
>>and e5 or f5 directly doesn't matter as the knight has to get out of the way
>>first anyway...
>>
>>
>>>
>>>(Pichard, MyTown 30.05.2004)
>>>
>>>
>>>>Kasparov-Deep Blue
>>>>Philadelphia (6) 1996
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The Opening has been a sucess for Kasparov. He has good central control, and
>>>>prospects of a gradual queenside advance. More importantly, there is no direct
>>>>plan for Black, so Deep Blue drifts for a few moves with disastrous
>>>>consequences. The bishop is already a little clumpsy on d7; I suspect a strong
>>>>human player would have sunk into thought, and devised a plan for deliverating
>>>>his game.
>>>>
>>>>[D]r2q1rk1/pp1bbppp/2n1pn2/3p4/2PP4/1P1B1N2/PB1N1PPP/2RQ1RK1 b - - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>11...Nh5?
>>>>This over-ambitious idea met with strong disapproval from most strong human
>>>>commentators. However, Yasser Seirawan said "oddly enough, one well-known chess
>>>>computer scientist suggested that the move may well be OK, but it might need a
>>>>highly advandce program and computer in a few years' time to justify this move".
>>>>I suspect that this is a case in point of someone believing that a strong
>>>>chess-playing program is doing something profound, when in fact is just
>>>>crunching numbers, Few GMs back in 1996 felt that 11....Nh5 was anything other
>>>>than a bad move.
>It proves a lot ,in particular how bad deep Blue was.Once again you seem to
>praise Deep Blue without facing the facts.This game has been subject of analysis
>by me and I have reached the conclusion that the reason it lost was that it did
>not play dxc4 at some point(lack of chess Knowledge).And Oh....before I forget
>.....Your chess rating is very low compared to Vincents (which is about 2300
>FIDE) so I cannot take your comments about chess moves seriously.


Shredder 8 agrees with the move, and its the number 1 program in the world.



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