Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:46:07 05/30/04
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On May 30, 2004 at 18:56:43, Derek Paquette wrote: >On May 30, 2004 at 18:22:12, ALI MIRAFZALI wrote: > >>On May 30, 2004 at 15:54:23, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On May 30, 2004 at 15:11:10, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>On May 30, 2004 at 14:58:45, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>New game >>>>r2q1rk1/pp1bbppp/2n1pn2/3p4/2PP4/1P1B1N2/PB1N1PPP/2RQ1RK1 b - - 0 1 >>>> >>>>Analysis by Shredder 8: >>>> >>>>1. ² (0.28): 1...Nh5 2.Re1 Nf4 3.Bb1 Qa5 4.Qc2 g6 5.Qc3 Qxc3 6.Rxc3 Bb4 7.Rce3 >>>>Ba5 >>>>2. ² (0.47): 1...Qa5 2.a3 dxc4 3.bxc4 Rad8 4.Qb3 Qh5 5.Rfe1 Na5 6.Qc2 Nc6 7.Ne4 >>>>Ng4 8.Ng3 >>> >>>So Shredder says it is .19 worse than Qa5, which _also_ looks a bit suspect... >>> >>>I'm not sure what this proves, if anything. I personally like Nh5 better than >>>Qa5... As black I'd like to start something on the king-side. Whether it is f6 >>>and e5 or f5 directly doesn't matter as the knight has to get out of the way >>>first anyway... >>> >>> >>>> >>>>(Pichard, MyTown 30.05.2004) >>>> >>>> >>>>>Kasparov-Deep Blue >>>>>Philadelphia (6) 1996 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>The Opening has been a sucess for Kasparov. He has good central control, and >>>>>prospects of a gradual queenside advance. More importantly, there is no direct >>>>>plan for Black, so Deep Blue drifts for a few moves with disastrous >>>>>consequences. The bishop is already a little clumpsy on d7; I suspect a strong >>>>>human player would have sunk into thought, and devised a plan for deliverating >>>>>his game. >>>>> >>>>>[D]r2q1rk1/pp1bbppp/2n1pn2/3p4/2PP4/1P1B1N2/PB1N1PPP/2RQ1RK1 b - - 0 1 >>>>> >>>>>11...Nh5? >>>>>This over-ambitious idea met with strong disapproval from most strong human >>>>>commentators. However, Yasser Seirawan said "oddly enough, one well-known chess >>>>>computer scientist suggested that the move may well be OK, but it might need a >>>>>highly advandce program and computer in a few years' time to justify this move". >>>>>I suspect that this is a case in point of someone believing that a strong >>>>>chess-playing program is doing something profound, when in fact is just >>>>>crunching numbers, Few GMs back in 1996 felt that 11....Nh5 was anything other >>>>>than a bad move. >>It proves a lot ,in particular how bad deep Blue was.Once again you seem to >>praise Deep Blue without facing the facts.This game has been subject of analysis >>by me and I have reached the conclusion that the reason it lost was that it did >>not play dxc4 at some point(lack of chess Knowledge).And Oh....before I forget >>.....Your chess rating is very low compared to Vincents (which is about 2300 >>FIDE) so I cannot take your comments about chess moves seriously. > > >Shredder 8 agrees with the move, and its the number 1 program in the world. This guy is running for "number 1 troll in the world" of course...
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