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Subject: Re: Do all Commercial programs analyze this Position like Deep Blue ?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 04:22:55 05/31/04

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On May 31, 2004 at 07:15:31, Vasik Rajlich wrote:

>On May 30, 2004 at 14:58:45, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>
>>Kasparov-Deep Blue
>>Philadelphia (6) 1996
>>
>>
>>The Opening has been a sucess for Kasparov. He has good central control, and
>>prospects of a gradual queenside advance. More importantly, there is no direct
>>plan for Black, so Deep Blue drifts for a few moves with disastrous
>>consequences. The bishop is already a little clumpsy on d7; I suspect a strong
>>human player would have sunk into thought, and devised a plan for deliverating
>>his game.
>>
>>[D]r2q1rk1/pp1bbppp/2n1pn2/3p4/2PP4/1P1B1N2/PB1N1PPP/2RQ1RK1 b - - 0 1
>>
>>11...Nh5?
>>This over-ambitious idea met with strong disapproval from most strong human
>>commentators. However, Yasser Seirawan said "oddly enough, one well-known chess
>>computer scientist suggested that the move may well be OK, but it might need a
>>highly advandce program and computer in a few years' time to justify this move".
>>I suspect that this is a case in point of someone believing that a strong
>>chess-playing program is doing something profound, when in fact is just
>>crunching numbers, Few GMs back in 1996 felt that 11....Nh5 was anything other
>>than a bad move.
>
>This type of position is very difficult for any chess program.
>
>Sometimes, the engines will find some way to make a very strange move work, like
>11. .. Nh5. Even in this case, it's not very good if a person is using an engine
>to help him understand the position.
>
>Note that search depth is not important here. For another example of this, see
>Kasparov-Fritz, X3D, game 3, where Fritz was doing 18-19 ply in the middlegame.

I disagree that search depth is not important.

The fact that 18-19 plies of Fritz was not enough does not mean that search
depth is not important.

Uri



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