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Subject: Re: Shredder 8 - Bxh7 2:01

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 04:35:00 05/31/04

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On May 31, 2004 at 07:03:38, Mike Byrne wrote:

>On May 31, 2004 at 00:55:28, Joseph Merolle wrote:
>
>>Mike what is your cpu speed and ram? 2.03 min is really fast on my lap top 3.06
>>ghz 256 ram it finds in about 3 min.
>>
>
>I have a dual 1.7 Ghz with 512M ram,  For the test below , Shredder was set to 2
>threads with about 48M hash.  The difference is probably the dual CPU machine.
>It somtimes can be more than twice as fast and for other positions can be less
>than twice as fast.  I will run it with one thread and see what the result is.
>
>
>>
>>
>>On May 31, 2004 at 00:04:01, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>
>>>[d]Kasparov,G - Comp Deep Blue, Philadelphia m 1996
>>>2rr2k1/pp1qnppp/2n1p3/3p4/1bPP3P/1P2RNP1/PB3P2/1BRQ2K1 w - - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>>
>>>20.Ng5 Ng6 21.Qh5 Bc5 22.dxc5
>>>  ±  (1.13)   Depth: 1/10   00:00:00
>>>20.a3 Bxa3 21.Bxa3 dxc4
>>>  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>>>20.a3 Bxa3 21.Bxa3 dxc4
>>>  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>>>20.a3 Bxa3 21.Bxa3 dxc4
>>>  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>>>20.a3 Bxa3 21.Bxa3 dxc4
>>>  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>>>20.a3 Bxa3 21.Bxa3 dxc4
>>>  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>>>20.a3 Bxa3 21.Bxa3 dxc4
>>>  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>>>20.a3 Bxa3 21.Bxa3 dxc4
>>>  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>>>20.a3 Bxa3 21.Bxa3 dxc4
>>>  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>>>20.a3 Bxa3 21.Bxa3 dxc4
>>>  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 5/16   00:00:00
>>>20.a3 Bd6 21.Ng5 Nf5 22.Bxf5 exf5
>>>  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 5/18   00:00:00
>>>20.a3 Bd6 21.Ng5 h6 22.Bh7+ Kf8 23.Nf3
>>>  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 6/14   00:00:00
>>>20.a3 Bd6 21.Ng5 h6 22.Nf3 Re8 23.Qc2
>>>  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 7/20   00:00:00  53kN
>>>20.a3 Bd6 21.Qd2 dxc4 22.bxc4 Bc7 23.h5 Nf5 24.Bxf5 exf5
>>>  ±  (0.73)   Depth: 8/20   00:00:00  150kN
>>>20.a3 Bd6 21.Qd2 Bc7 22.Qe2 dxc4 23.bxc4 Bb6 24.Ng5 Nxd4 25.Bxh7+ Kf8
>>>  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 9/22   00:00:01  265kN
>>>20.a3 Bd6 21.Qd2 Bc7 22.Re2 dxc4 23.bxc4 Bb6 24.d5 exd5 25.Qg5
>>>  ±  (0.71)   Depth: 10/25   00:00:02  632kN
>>>20.a3 Bd6 21.Qd3 g6 22.Qc3 Nf5 23.Bxf5 exf5 24.Qb4
>>>  ²  (0.67)   Depth: 11/30   00:00:04  1439kN
>>>20.a3 Ba5 21.Ng5 h6 22.Nf3 dxc4 23.bxc4 Bb6 24.c5 Ba5 25.Qb3 Qc7 26.Be4
>>>  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 12/30   00:00:10  3631kN
>>>20.a3 Ba5 21.g4 Ng6 22.h5 Nf4 23.Qc2 g6 24.Qf5 exf5 25.Re8+ Rxe8
>>>  ²  (0.54)   Depth: 13/34   00:00:24  8611kN
>>>20.a3 Ba5 21.Ng5 h6 22.Nf3 dxc4 23.bxc4 Bb6 24.c5 Ba5 25.Qb3 Nd5 26.Re2 Qc7
>>>27.Qd3
>>>  ²  (0.57)   Depth: 14/31   00:00:47  16059kN
>>>20.a3 Ba5 21.Ng5 h6 22.Nf3 dxc4 23.bxc4 Bb6 24.c5 Ba5 25.Qb3 Nd5 26.Re2 Qc7
>>>27.Bd3
>>>  ²  (0.64)   Depth: 15/40   00:01:25  28708kN
>>>20.Bxh7+ Kxh7 21.Ng5+ Kg8 22.Qh5 Qe8 23.Qh7+ Kf8 24.Qh8+ Ng8 25.Nxe6+ Qxe6
>>>26.Rxe6 Nxd4 27.Bxd4 dxc4
>>>  ²  (0.65)   Depth: 15/45   00:02:01  42241kN
>>>20.Bxh7+ Kxh7 21.Ng5+ Kg8 22.Qh5 Qe8 23.Qh7+ Kf8 24.Qh8+ Ng8 25.Nxe6+ Qxe6
>>>26.Rxe6 Nxd4 27.Bxd4 dxc4 28.bxc4
>>>  ±  (1.00)   Depth: 15/45   00:02:32  53632kN
>>>20.Bxh7+ Kxh7 21.Ng5+ Kg8 22.Qh5 Qe8 23.Qh7+ Kf8 24.Qh8+ Ng8 25.Nxe6+ fxe6
>>>26.Rf3+ Qf7 27.Rxf7+ Kxf7 28.Qh5+ Kf8 29.a3 Bd6 30.Qg4 Re8 31.cxd5 Nf6 32.dxe6
>>>Nxg4 33.Rc5
>>>  ±  (1.15)   Depth: 15/48   00:03:38  78706kN
>>>
>>>(Byrne, MyTown 31.05.2004)

When I re-run test with cleared hash and position learning off. I get different
solution times depending on the hash but all of them seem to get faster.  I have
noticed this before with Shredder , you only seem to get one crack at running a
position before it learns the best move even with position learning off.  All of
my subsqequent re-run of the above positions are faster than above - varing the
hash size does vary the solution time.



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