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Subject: Deep Blue & Nh5

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 22:09:25 05/31/04


There was a post by Jorge Pichard about 11..Nh5 in game 6 of Deep Blue vs
Kasparov (http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?368164).

I originally played the game with Crafty (64-bit) vs Shredder 8 from the Nh5
position, and Shredder won both as white & black
(http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?368274).


Well I decided to play Deep Fritz 8 vs Shredder 8 from the same position.  The
outcome was completly different.



Deep Fritz 8 - Shredder 8 [D30]
, 120'/40+60'/20+30' (1), 31.05.2004
[0.32;0.44]

W=16.9 ply; 1,543kN/s
B=20.8 ply; 595kN/s
 1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 c6 3.c4 e6 4.Nbd2 Nf6 5.e3 c5 6.b3 Nc6 7.Bb2 cxd4 8.exd4 Be7
9.Rc1 0-0 10.Bd3 Bd7 11.0-0 Both last book move 11...Nh5   0.44/19  8:40  12.g3
 0.32/14  5:24  Nf6   0.66/17  3:30  13.a3   0.39/15  8:56  dxc4 (Rc8)  0.69/19
7:11  14.bxc4   0.42/15  5:04  Qa5   0.66/19  6:56  15.Re1 (Ne5)  0.44/14  4:17
15...Rfd8   0.60/18  9:37  16.Ne4 (c5)  0.50/14  4:27  16...Qh5   0.57/18  4:46
17.Rb1 (d5)  0.36/14  7:08  17...Ng4   0.51/16  5:09  18.Bf1 (h4)  0.55/14  4:14
 18...Rac8 (Rab8)  0.48/17  3:54  19.h3 (Bg2)  0.53/14  4:00  19...Nf6   0.83/17
 1:40  20.Ned2 (g4)  0.49/13  2:41  20...Be8 (a6)  0.53/17  5:22  21.Bc3 (Qc2)
0.63/14  3:38  21...b6   0.29/18  3:34  22.a4 (Qc2)  0.45/14  4:12  22...Qg6
(Qh6)  0.27/17  2:33  23.Bg2 (Rb5)  0.54/14  3:23  23...Qh6   0.27/16  2:47
24.Qe2 (Qc2)  0.64/15  5:12  24...Kh8 (Bd6)  0.64/17  8:13  25.Nf1 (Nb3)
0.75/14  3:20  25...Bf8 (Bd6)  0.47/16  3:31  26.Qa2 (Qc2)  0.70/14  9:07
26...Kg8   0.61/16  2:26  27.Rb5 (a5)  0.81/15  4:23  27...Nd7   1.01/17  4:15
28.Bd2 (N1h2)  0.67/15  8:25  28...Qg6   0.68/18  2:12  29.Rg5   0.75/14  2:35
Qf6   0.44/18  2:24  30.Qa1 (Rg4)  0.59/14  5:12  30...g6 (Qe7)  0.69/16  2:23
31.Bc3 (Rb5)  0.57/13  2:32  31...Bb4 (Na5)  0.25/16  37  32.Bxb4   0.67/14
2:21  Nxb4   0.25/18  1:18  33.Ne3   0.60/14  2:45  Nc6 (Qg7)  0.00/18  2:41
34.Rb5 (Rg4)  0.48/13  2:07  34...Na5 (Ndb8)  0.05/17  2:14  35.Qa2   0.54/14
3:02  Qe7 (Nc6)  0.01/19  2:57  36.Rb2 (Rbb1)  0.54/15  2:14  36...Qf8 (Nf6)
0.00/17  2:29  37.Rd2 (Rc2)  0.41/14  2:44  37...Qb4 (Nf6)  0.01/18  2:08
38.Rb1   0.66/15  2:53  Qe7 (Qd6)  0.16/18  3:22  39.Rdd1 (Re2)  0.63/13  1:20
39...Nf6   0.02/18  3:49  40.Ne5 (Ng5)  0.59/14  1:08  40...Nd7 (Bc6)  0.00/18
3:40  41.f4 (Nf3)  0.42/14  3:53  41...Nxe5 (g5)  -0.31/17  2:11  42.fxe5
0.29/14  1:22  Qg5 (Bc6)  -0.64/18  3:19  43.Kf2   0.06/14  2:16  h5 (Bc6)
-0.39/18  3:11  44.h4   -0.13/15  6:10  Qe7   -0.58/16  43  45.Bh3 (Bf3)
0.08/13  2:36  45...g5 (Kh8)  -1.00/17  4:11  46.hxg5 (d5)  -0.13/13  3:30
46...Qxg5   -1.41/15  38  47.Rd3 (Rbc1)  -0.79/13  3:35  47...Bc6   -1.00/17
4:34  48.d5   -0.84/13  3:29  Be8 (Qxe5)  -0.98/16  3:59  49.Rd4 (Rbd1)
-0.64/13  3:23  49...Qxe5 (Nc6)  -0.66/16  3:03  50.Rf4 (Rbd1)  -0.37/13  5:49
50...Nb7   -0.66/16  3:10  51.a5 (Qa1)  -0.53/13  4:19  51...Nc5   -1.10/17
4:46  52.Kf3 (axb6)  -0.60/12  3:23  52...bxa5   -1.02/16  4:02  53.Qxa5 (Qa1)
-0.64/12  2:14  53...Nd3   -1.12/16  3:30  54.Qxa7 (Re4)  -0.56/13  4:12
54...Qc3 (Nxf4)  -1.82/15  3:42  55.Qa1 (Qd4)  -0.54/13  2:49  55...Qxa1
-1.11/16  2:37  56.Rxa1   -0.44/14  38  Nxf4   -1.18/18  3:25  57.Kxf4
-0.55/14  29  Bd7   -1.15/18  3:06  58.Bg2   -0.56/15  2:06  Kg7 (f6)  -1.27/17
1:25  59.Bf3 (Ra5)  -0.54/15  2:14  59...exd5   -1.47/18  1:59  60.cxd5
-0.64/15  59  Rh8   -1.47/19  2:12  61.Ra7   -0.64/14  46  Bh3   -1.47/18  1:30
62.Kg5 (Rb7)  -0.69/13  1:12  62...Rhe8   -1.69/18  1:08  63.Ra3   -0.70/14  36
Re5+ (Ra8)  -1.88/17  32  64.Kf4   -0.77/16  1:14  Rce8   -1.86/17  31  65.Rd3
-0.88/16  2:12  Bd7 (f6)  -1.88/17  48  66.Rb3 (d6)  -0.86/15  44  66...Kg6 (f6)
 -1.92/16  46  67.Rc3 (Bh1)  -1.01/15  43  67...Bh3 (f6)  -1.92/16  36  68.Bh1
(Ra3)  -0.76/15  39  68...Bd7 (Bg4)  -1.91/17  39  69.Bf3   0.00/19  1:04  f6
-1.92/17  44  70.Bh1 (Rb3)  -1.20/15  1:01  70...Rb8 (Bf5)  -2.28/16  33
71.Be4+   -1.23/15  1:20  Kf7   -2.35/17  9  72.Rc4 (Rc7)  -1.37/14  1:01
72...Rb2 (Rb3)  -2.40/18  43  73.Rc2   -1.40/14  37  Rb4   -2.41/19  34  74.Rc4
 -1.48/16  25  Rxc4   -2.58/20  27  75.Nxc4   -1.50/16  6  Rg5   -2.55/23  24
76.Bf3 (Ne3)  -1.55/16  51  76...Ke7 (Bg4)  -2.68/21  40  77.Ne3   -1.62/16  33
Kd6   -2.68/24  32  78.Be4 (Nc4+)  -1.84/16  34  78...Bc8 (Rg8)  -2.78/23  26
79.Bf3 (Bd3)  -1.89/16  22  79...Kc5   -2.75/22  27  80.Be4   -1.88/16  22  Re5
(Rg8)  -2.73/22  31  81.Nc2   -1.90/15  19  Re8   -2.74/22  25  82.Ne3
-2.04/16  27  Re5 (Rh8)  -2.73/22  23  83.Nc2   0.00/19  28  Rg5   -2.76/22  26
84.Ne3   0.00/19  20  Bg4   -2.75/23  22  85.Bg2 (Bd3)  -1.87/16  20  85...Bd7
(Rg8)  -2.78/22  24  86.Bf3 (Be4)  -1.89/17  24  86...Re5   -2.73/22  29  87.Be4
  -1.93/16  15  Bb5 (Re8)  -2.76/21  21  88.Nf5   -1.77/15  23  Bc4 (Be2)
-2.76/22  24  89.Ne3   -1.79/17  24  Ba6 (Be2)  -2.73/22  27  90.Bf5   -1.83/15
18  Be2   -2.73/21  23  91.Be4   -2.02/16  20  Rg5 (Re7)  -2.72/20  25  92.Bb1
-1.89/15  15  Bg4   -2.74/20  18  93.Be4   -1.80/16  15  Bh3 (Re5)  -2.73/21  20
 94.Bf3 (Bh1)  -1.83/16  14  94...Bd7 (Re5)  -2.73/21  19  95.Be4 (Bh1)
-1.95/16  23  95...Bg4 (Rg8)  -2.74/21  19  96.Bg2 (Ng2)  0.00/19  17  96...Bd7
 -2.78/22  26  97.Bf3 (Be4)  0.00/19  15  97...Re5   -2.74/20  19  98.Be4
0.00/19  20  Kd4   -2.67/21  35  99.Nc2+   -1.86/16  17  Kc4   -2.69/20  6
100.Ne3+   -1.84/15  10  Kc5   -2.76/21  3  101.Nc2 (Nd1)  -1.86/15  10
101...Bb5 (Re8)  -2.78/22  13  102.Ne3   -1.83/15  16  Rg5 (Re7)  -2.81/21  10
103.Bh1 (Bf3)  -1.92/14  12  103...Bd3   -2.84/22  18  104.Bf3 (Bg2)  -2.05/16
17  104...Re5   -2.85/19  14  105.Bg2 (Bh1)  -2.19/15  13  105...Kd6 (Kd4)
-2.81/20  28  106.Bf3   -1.84/15  9  Kd7   -2.81/19  17  107.Bg2 (Nd1)  -1.96/16
 16  107...Rg5 (Re8)  -2.77/20  17  108.Bf3 (Bh3+)  -1.67/16  11  108...Kc7
(Kd6)  -2.82/20  21  109.Nd1 (Bg2)  -2.05/15  16  109...Rf5+   -2.82/20  19
110.Ke3   -1.88/11  0  Bc2   -2.80/20  17  111.Nc3   -1.99/15  17  Rg5 (Kd6)
-2.76/19  14  112.Kf4 (Nb5+)  -1.71/14  7  112...Bg6 (Re5)  -2.78/19  12
113.Nd1 (Nb5+)  -2.08/14  11  113...Kd6 (Rf5+)  -2.83/19  12  114.Ne3   -1.90/16
 11  Kc5   -2.80/20  16  115.Ng2 (Bd1)  -2.09/15  9  115...Bc2 (Re5)  -2.79/18
13  116.Ne3   -1.97/16  14  Bb1 (Bh7)  -2.75/20  25  117.Bd1 (Bg2)  -1.95/15  12
 117...Kd6 (Rg8)  -2.76/19  13  118.Bf3 (Be2)  -1.56/14  6  118...Bd3 (Rg7)
-2.74/19  16  119.Bd1 (Be4)  -1.51/15  6  119...Kd7 (Kc7)  -2.52/16  20  120.Bf3
  0.00/17  7  Bg6   -2.09/17  26  121.Bg2   -0.50/15  11  Kc8 (Re5)  -1.89/18
18  122.Bf3   -0.09/16  10  Bd3 (Kd8)  -1.31/21  51  123.Nd1 (Bg2)  0.00/16  6
123...h4 (Kd7)  -0.21/19  14  124.gxh4   0.00/14  4  Rf5+   -0.04/19  19
125.Kg3   0.00/15  5  Re5   -0.04/20  6  126.Nf2   0.00/15  9  Bf5   -0.01/20  9
 127.h5 (Ng4)  0.00/15  7  127...Bh7 (Kd8)  -0.10/19  8  128.Ng4 (Kf4)  0.00/15
8  128...Rxh5   -0.47/20  6  129.Nxf6   0.00/16  7  Rh6   -0.50/20  6  130.Nxh7
(Ng4)  0.00/16  5  130...Rxh7   -0.52/18  0  131.Be4 (Kf4)  0.00/17  5
131...Rf7 (Rh5)  -1.50/24  7  132.Kg4 (Bf3)  0.00/19  6  132...Kd7 (Rd7)
-1.26/22  7  133.Bf5+   0.00/19  4  Kd6   -1.26/25  7  134.Be6   0.00/19  3  Rf2
(Rf1)  -1.30/24  10  135.Kg5   0.00/19  5  Ke5 (Rg2+)  -1.30/25  7  136.Kg6
0.00/19  5  Rf4 (Kd6)  -1.27/24  8  137.Kh6 (Kg7)  0.00/18  3  137...Kf6 (Rf1)
-1.75/25  7  138.Kh5   -0.01/19  5  Rd4 (Rf2)  -1.77/25  6  139.Bg8   0.00/19  3
 Rc4 (Rxd5+)  -1.76/26  5  140.Be6   0.00/20  5  Re4 (Rd4)  -1.77/26  7  141.Bg8
  0.00/18  3  Re5+   -1.78/26  5  142.Kh4   0.00/18  3  Rg5 (Rxd5)  -1.76/27  9
143.Be6   0.00/20  4  Rg6 (Rxd5)  -1.76/26  11  144.Kh5 (Kh3)  -0.02/19  4
144...Rg2 (Rg1)  -1.75/26  5  145.Kh4   -0.02/18  2  Rg1 (Ke5)  -1.76/26  8
146.Kh3 (Bg4)  -0.02/18  3  146...Ke5   -1.75/24  4  147.Kh4   -0.05/18  9  Rg6
 -1.76/24  4  148.Kh5   -0.02/18  2  Rg7   -1.74/27  9  149.Kh4   -0.01/17  3
Rg1   -1.77/25  4  150.Kh5 (Bf7)  -0.02/18  3  150...Kd6   -1.78/25  4  151.Kh4
 0.00/18  2  Rg2   -1.75/24  4  152.Kh5 (Bg4)  -0.01/18  2  152...Kc5 (Rg7)
-1.72/24  5  153.Kh4   -0.02/17  2  Rg1   -1.73/25  4  154.Kh5 (Kh3)  0.00/18  2
 154...Kd6   -1.73/25  4  155.Kh4   0.00/24  2  Ke5   -1.72/25  5  156.Kh5 (Kh3)
 0.00/24  3  156...Rg7   -1.75/25  3  157.Kh4   0.00/23  1  Kd6   -1.74/24  3
158.Kh5 (Kh3)  0.00/18  2  158...Rg2   -1.72/25  4  159.Kh4   0.00/18  2  Ke5
(Rg1)  -1.65/23  4  160.Kh5   0.00/18  3  Rg1 (Kd6)  -1.66/23  3  161.Kh4 (Kh6)
0.00/23  1  161...Rg7   -1.57/23  6  162.Kh5   0.00/18  1  Kd6 (Rg1)  -1.53/23
4  163.Kh4   0.00/18  1  Rg1   -1.53/24  4  164.Kh5 (Bf7)  0.00/18  2  164...Rg7
(Rc1)  -1.47/20  3  165.Kh4   0.00/24  2  Kc5   -1.44/21  3  166.Kh5   0.00/18
2  Rg3 (Kd6)  -1.41/21  3  167.Kh4   0.00/18  2  Rg7   -1.41/23  2  168.Kh5
0.00/23  1  Rg1   -1.36/23  3  169.Kh4   0.00/17  1  Kd6 (Rg7)  -1.43/22  2
170.Kh5 (Bf7)  0.00/22  1  170...Rg2   -1.44/20  3  171.Kh4   0.00/22  1  Rb2
-1.23/19  7  172.Kg4 (Kh5)  0.00/17  1  172...Rb3 (Rb1)  -1.07/17  7  173.Kf5
(Kh4)  0.00/18  1  173...Rb4 (Rd3)  -0.85/15  7  174.Kg5 (Bf7)  0.00/18  1
174...Rb2 (Rd4)  -0.68/13  3  175.Kf5 (Kg6)  0.00/18  1  175...Rb4   -0.46/14  3
 176.Kf6 (Bf7)  0.00/18  1  176...Rd4   -0.32/12  1  177.Kf7 (Kg5)  0.00/19  1
177...Rf4+ (Rxd5)  -0.05/15  2  178.Ke8 (Kg6)  0.00/20  1  178...Rc4 (Rf1)
0.00/19  1  179.Kd8 (Kf7)  0.00/22  1  179...Rc1   0.00/27  0  180.Ke8   0.00/25
 1  Ke5 Draw accepted  0.00/99  0  ½-½




Shredder 8 - Deep Fritz 8 [D30]
, 120'/40+60'/20+30' (2), 31.05.2004
[1.16;0.25]

W=18.4 ply; 602kN/s
B=15.5 ply; 1,542kN/s
 1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 c6 3.c4 e6 4.Nbd2 Nf6 5.e3 c5 6.b3 Nc6 7.Bb2 cxd4 8.exd4 Be7
9.Rc1 0-0 10.Bd3 Bd7 11.0-0 Both last book move 11...b5   0.25/14  2:51  12.c5
1.16/17  1:36  Nb4 (Qa5)  0.31/16  4:34  13.Bb1   1.12/17  47  Nc6 (Ng4)
0.32/16  3:26  14.Ne5   1.31/18  1:28  Qc7 (b4)  0.40/15  5:55  15.Re1   1.38/18
 3:53  b4   0.34/15  5:34  16.Ndf3 (Re3)  1.35/18  2:20  16...Rfb8 (Rfd8)
0.38/15  7:32  17.Qd2 (Nxc6)  1.44/18  6:48  17...a5 (Be8)  0.38/15  2:54
18.Ng5 (Bc2)  1.27/18  6:45  18...Be8   0.21/15  3:31  19.Qe3 (Bc2)  1.39/18
5:39  19...a4 (h6)  0.09/15  7:20  20.Qg3 (Ngf3)  1.18/16  4:05  20...Rc8 (a3)
0.00/13  2:38  21.bxa4 (Qe3)  1.10/17  4:22  21...Rxa4   -0.09/15  5:34  22.Qh3
(Qd3)  1.05/17  2:51  22...h6   0.00/15  3:57  23.Nxc6   0.81/17  3:50  Qxc6
(Bxc6)  -0.23/14  1:06  24.Nxe6 (Nf3)  1.07/19  4:37  24...Bd7   0.40/16  6:37
25.Bf5   1.07/20  3:59  g6 (Rxa2)  0.00/15  7:00  26.Qxh6   1.00/16  58  Bf8
(Bxe6)  0.00/16  2:25  27.Qg5 (Nxf8)  1.09/19  4:45  27...fxe6   -0.05/15  2:39
28.Bxg6   1.41/19  4:24  Bg7   0.14/16  8:30  29.Re3   1.19/19  4:36  Qc7
0.05/14  2:29  30.Rg3 (Bb1)  1.37/18  3:56  30...Be8 (Bb5)  0.09/15  3:07
31.Bb1   1.48/17  1:02  Nh5   0.16/15  5:03  32.Rf3   1.43/19  4:31  Qd8
0.37/16  3:50  33.Qg4   1.51/19  3:52  Ra6   0.39/15  2:59  34.Rb3 (Re1)
1.59/19  5:28  34...Rb8 (Qa5)  0.47/15  4:55  35.Re1   1.44/19  5:17  Nf6
0.46/14  2:24  36.Qg3   1.44/19  4:11  Ba4 (Rb7)  0.57/14  4:17  37.Rf3 (Rbe3)
1.68/18  5:27  37...Rc8 (Rba8)  0.74/13  2:27  38.Bd3   2.14/18  4:23  Rac6
1.82/14  2:58  39.Qh4 (Bc1)  2.88/17  3:24  39...Kf7   1.18/11  13  40.Bc1
3.49/17  3:31  Qh8 (Qf8)  1.95/12  24  41.Qg5   3.74/17  3:32  Qg8   3.25/15
6:02  42.Bg6+   3.98/17  3:31  Ke7   3.61/16  3:15  43.Bf4   3.86/18  4:52  Rf8
(Rd8)  3.60/14  2:12  44.Rb1   4.60/17  3:46  b3 (Rcc8)  4.01/14  2:14  45.axb3
 4.77/17  6:08  Bb5   4.61/15  3:40  46.Ra1 (h4)  4.03/18  11:37  46...Ra8
4.76/15  3:48  47.Bd6+ (Re1)  4.03/18  3:33  47...Rxd6   4.45/15  3:33  48.cxd6+
  4.03/17  2:04  Kxd6   4.74/15  3:57  49.Qg3+   4.78/18  5:48  Kd7   5.17/16
3:39  50.Be8+   6.20/17  2:30  Qxe8   5.63/15  1:53  51.Qxg7+   6.24/18  1:57
Kd6   6.33/15  3:08  52.Rxa8   6.24/17  1:16  Qxa8   6.30/16  3:21  53.h4
6.56/19  1:52  Qa1+   6.54/15  3:11  54.Kh2   6.56/7  0  Qxd4   6.60/16  9:55
55.Qf8+ adjud.  6.36/17  1:35  1-0



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