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Subject: Re: What is the upper limit for SSDF rating scale?

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 07:16:33 06/01/04

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On June 01, 2004 at 06:38:21, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 01, 2004 at 05:52:26, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>On May 31, 2004 at 20:37:19, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>
>>>On May 31, 2004 at 19:27:20, Jonathan Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>>In the ICD chess software, the engines surpass 2750 and going over 2800 at 1.2
>>>>GHZ?
>>>>How high can the Swedish rating system, SSDF, can it go?
>>>>
>>>>FIDE's and USCF's highest are 3000.
>>>>I learned later that ELO perhaps can go over 8000 (that would be somthing like
>>>>50+ ply for ELO).
>>>>Jonathan
>>>
>>>Without knowledge of the rating population, the absolute value of any ELO is
>>>valueless.  The way SSDF is designed, a fixed pool of computer programs
>>>generally running and rated on older hardware with the new blood coming in on
>>>faster hardware with more modern programs - there is only one for the ratings to
>>>go and that is up.    They have bad case of what I call the "Bloodgood" effect
>>>with the limited rating pool.
>>
>>Very true. SSDF and other computer rating lists are highly inflationary.
>>You can't compare it with FIDE rating system at all.
>>
>>There is not only a different pool of players.
>>
>>Chessbase of course is not unhappy with the present state.
>>After all the ratings are a good sales argument.
>>
>>Michael
>
>I do not think it is a good sales argument.
>
>Most players do not care much about the exact rating against humans when the
>program is better than them.

That´s Nonsense. They _care_ about the strength compared to the top human
players.
The number of players who buy a new program in order to play against it at full
strength is negligible small anyway.

>
>They may prefer a better program to analyze games but the only important thing
>is the relative rating between programs.
>
>I believe that the same will buy chess programs even if the rating of every
>program was lower by 300 elo than the ssdf list.

No  :)

Michael

>
>Uri



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