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Subject: Re: What is the upper limit for SSDF rating scale?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:40:57 06/01/04

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On June 01, 2004 at 10:16:33, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On June 01, 2004 at 06:38:21, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On June 01, 2004 at 05:52:26, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>On May 31, 2004 at 20:37:19, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 31, 2004 at 19:27:20, Jonathan Lee wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In the ICD chess software, the engines surpass 2750 and going over 2800 at 1.2
>>>>>GHZ?
>>>>>How high can the Swedish rating system, SSDF, can it go?
>>>>>
>>>>>FIDE's and USCF's highest are 3000.
>>>>>I learned later that ELO perhaps can go over 8000 (that would be somthing like
>>>>>50+ ply for ELO).
>>>>>Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>Without knowledge of the rating population, the absolute value of any ELO is
>>>>valueless.  The way SSDF is designed, a fixed pool of computer programs
>>>>generally running and rated on older hardware with the new blood coming in on
>>>>faster hardware with more modern programs - there is only one for the ratings to
>>>>go and that is up.    They have bad case of what I call the "Bloodgood" effect
>>>>with the limited rating pool.
>>>
>>>Very true. SSDF and other computer rating lists are highly inflationary.
>>>You can't compare it with FIDE rating system at all.
>>>
>>>There is not only a different pool of players.
>>>
>>>Chessbase of course is not unhappy with the present state.
>>>After all the ratings are a good sales argument.
>>>
>>>Michael
>>
>>I do not think it is a good sales argument.
>>
>>Most players do not care much about the exact rating against humans when the
>>program is better than them.
>
>That´s Nonsense. They _care_ about the strength compared to the top human
>players.
>The number of players who buy a new program in order to play against it at full
>strength is negligible small anyway.

I know that most people do not buy a new program in order to play against it but
my point is that people buy a program because it is better than the previous
version and the relative strength to the top humans is irrelevant.

Uri



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