Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 08:10:00 06/01/04
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On June 01, 2004 at 10:40:57, Uri Blass wrote: >On June 01, 2004 at 10:16:33, Drexel,Michael wrote: > >>On June 01, 2004 at 06:38:21, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On June 01, 2004 at 05:52:26, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>> >>>>On May 31, 2004 at 20:37:19, Mike Byrne wrote: >>>> >>>>>On May 31, 2004 at 19:27:20, Jonathan Lee wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>In the ICD chess software, the engines surpass 2750 and going over 2800 at 1.2 >>>>>>GHZ? >>>>>>How high can the Swedish rating system, SSDF, can it go? >>>>>> >>>>>>FIDE's and USCF's highest are 3000. >>>>>>I learned later that ELO perhaps can go over 8000 (that would be somthing like >>>>>>50+ ply for ELO). >>>>>>Jonathan >>>>> >>>>>Without knowledge of the rating population, the absolute value of any ELO is >>>>>valueless. The way SSDF is designed, a fixed pool of computer programs >>>>>generally running and rated on older hardware with the new blood coming in on >>>>>faster hardware with more modern programs - there is only one for the ratings to >>>>>go and that is up. They have bad case of what I call the "Bloodgood" effect >>>>>with the limited rating pool. >>>> >>>>Very true. SSDF and other computer rating lists are highly inflationary. >>>>You can't compare it with FIDE rating system at all. >>>> >>>>There is not only a different pool of players. >>>> >>>>Chessbase of course is not unhappy with the present state. >>>>After all the ratings are a good sales argument. >>>> >>>>Michael >>> >>>I do not think it is a good sales argument. >>> >>>Most players do not care much about the exact rating against humans when the >>>program is better than them. >> >>That´s Nonsense. They _care_ about the strength compared to the top human >>players. >>The number of players who buy a new program in order to play against it at full >>strength is negligible small anyway. > >I know that most people do not buy a new program in order to play against it but >my point is that people buy a program because it is better than the previous >version and the relative strength to the top humans is irrelevant. > >Uri I don't think it is irrelevant. I think it gives you an extra boost. All dedicated chess computer companies in the past advertised their computers with very high rating figures (USCF instead of FIDE for example). Michael
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