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Subject: Re: Hello Stefan, what is here wrong?

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 22:50:36 06/01/04

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On June 01, 2004 at 19:20:58, James T. Walker wrote:

>Must be something wrong with your Shredder/computer.
>Here is Shredder 7.04 first in the classic GUI and then in the Chessbase GUI.
>Takes 4 or 5 seconds to find g5 and stick with it.
>
>Engine: Shredder 7.04
>by Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
>Position:  0 49
>  1/02	 0:00 	+1.44--	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 (2) 0.0
>  1/02	 0:00 	+1.44 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 (4) 0.0
>  1/02	 0:00 	+2.35++	1...a3 (9) 0.0
>  1/02	 0:00 	+2.35 	1...a3 (10) 0.1
>  2/02	 0:00 	+0.38--	1...a3 2.fxg6 fxg6 (18) 0.1
>  2/03	 0:00 	+0.97 	1...a3 2.Kb3 (29) 0.2
>  2/03	 0:00 	+2.04++	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 (38) 0.3
>  2/03	 0:00 	+2.04 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 (46) 0.3
>  3/04	 0:00 	+0.60--	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 (80) 0.6
>  3/04	 0:00 	+0.60 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 (106) 0.9
>  3/06	 0:00 	+0.66++	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.Kxa4 Kxe5 (192) 1.6
>  3/06	 0:00 	+0.66 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.Kxa4 Kxe5 (203) 1.7
>  4/05	 0:00 	+0.66 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.Kxa4 Kxe5 (317) 2.7
>  4/07	 0:00 	+0.78++	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 (368) 3.1
>  4/07	 0:00 	+0.78 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 (437) 3.7
>  5/08	 0:00 	+0.91 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 4.Kxa3 Kxe5 (852) 7.2
>  6/11	 0:00 	+0.91 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 4.Kxa3 Kxe5 (1.998) 16.7
>  7/10	 0:00 	+0.62--	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 4.e6 fxe6 5.fxe6 Kd6 (3.262)
>20.5
>  7/13	 0:00 	+0.62 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 4.e6 fxe6 5.fxe6 Kd6 (3.951)
>20.3
>  8/11	 0:00 	+0.29--	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 a2 4.Kxa2 Kc5 5.e6 fxe6 (7.047)
>21.8
>  8/15	 0:00 	-0.21--	1...gxf5 2.g5 Kb6 3.gxh6 Ka5 4.e6 f4 5.exf7 (12.066) 30.2
>  8/15	 0:00 	-0.40 	1...gxf5 2.g5 a3 3.gxh6 a2 4.h7 a1Q 5.h8Q Qa4+ 6.Kd3
>(14.265) 34.8
>  8/19	 0:00 	-0.39++	1...a3 2.hxg6 fxg6 3.Kb3 gxf5 4.gxf5 h5 5.Kc4 (21.470)
>25.1
>  8/21	 0:00 	-0.09 	1...a3 2.e6 fxe6 3.fxg6 a2 4.g7 a1Q 5.g8Q Qe5 6.Kd3
>(30.573) 34.0
>  8/21	 0:00 	-0.08++	1...gxh5 2.Kb4 hxg4 3.e6 fxe6 4.Ka3 (34.103) 34.7
>  8/21	 0:00 	+0.01 	1...gxh5 2.gxh5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 4.e6 fxe6 5.fxe6 Kxe6 6.Kxa3
>(34.251) 34.5
>  9/13	 0:01 	-0.27--	1...gxh5 2.gxh5 a3 3.Kb3 f6 4.Kxa3 fxe5 5.f6 Kd6 6.Kb4
>(36.589) 31.1
>  9/14	 0:01 	-0.39 	1...gxh5 2.gxh5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 4.e6 fxe6 5.f6 Kd6 6.Kxa3
>(39.847) 32.0
>  9/19	 0:01 	-0.38++	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.Ka3 exf5 5.Ka2 fxg4 (54.740)
>34.6
>  9/19	 0:01 	-0.03++	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.Ka3 exf5 5.Ka2 fxg4 (55.333)
>35.0
>  9/19	 0:01 	+0.11 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 e5 6.Kb5
>(56.833) 35.8
> 10/16	 0:01 	-0.03 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 e5 6.Kb5
>(66.924) 38.2
> 10/22	 0:02 	-0.02++	1...a3 2.e6 fxe6 3.hxg6 a2 4.g7 a1Q 5.g5 hxg5 6.g8Q exf5
>7.Qa8+ Qxa8 (90.743) 40.5
> 10/25	 0:02 	-0.01 	1...a3 2.Kb3 gxf5 3.gxf5 Kd5 4.e6 Kd6 5.exf7 Ke7 6.Ka2 Kxf7
>7.Kxa3 (111.114) 38.3
> 11/25	 0:04 	-0.01 	1...a3 2.Kb3 gxf5 3.gxf5 Kd5 4.e6 Kd6 5.exf7 Ke7 6.Ka2 Kxf7
>7.Kxa3 (164.809) 40.4
> 11/25	 0:04 	 0.00++	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.f7 Ke7 6.Kc4
>(171.844) 41.9
> 11/25	 0:04 	+0.35++	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.fxe6 Kxe6 5.Kxa4 Kf6 6.Kb5
>Ke5 7.Kc6 (173.884) 42.3
> 11/25	 0:04 	+1.16 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 e5 6.Kb5 Ke6
>(180.206) 43.7
> 12/17	 0:04 	+1.41++	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.Ka3 exf5 5.Kb4 fxg4 6.Ka5
>(203.990) 47.4
> 12/18	 0:04 	+1.91++	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.Kxa4 Kxe5 4.f6 Kxf6 5.Kb5 Ke6 6.Kb6 f5
>7.Kb7 (212.603) 49.2
> 12/18	 0:04 	+1.91 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 a3 (221.845) 51.1
> 13/22	 0:04 	+1.87 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 Kd7 6.f7 e5
>7.f8Q Ke6 (282.642) 59.2
> 14/24	 0:05 	+1.70 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 e5 6.Kb4 Ke6
>7.Kc3 Kf7 8.Kc4 e4 9.Kc3 Kxf6 (379.710) 68.2
> 15/24	 0:06 	+1.65 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 Kd7 6.f7 Ke7
>7.Kb4 Kxf7 8.Kc5 e5 9.Kd5 (578.285) 91.0
> 16/27	 0:07 	+1.48 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 Kd7 6.Kb5 Ke8
>7.Kc4 Kf7 8.Kd3 Kxf6 9.Kd2 (979.716) 127.0
> 17/28	 0:11 	+1.66 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 Kd7 6.f7 Ke7
>7.Kb5 Kxf7 8.Kc6 Ke7 9.Kc7 e5 10.Kb6 Kf6 (1.906.944) 162.7
> 18/31	 0:15 	+1.46 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 Kd7 6.Kb5 Ke8
>7.Kc4 Kf7 8.Kd3 Kxf6 9.Ke4 Kg7 10.Ke5 Kf7 (2.639.704) 171.9
> 19/33	 0:31 	+1.44 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 Kd7 6.Kb5 Ke8
>7.Kc4 Kf7 8.Kd3 Kxf6 9.Ke4 Kg7 10.Ke5 Kf7 (6.494.865) 207.6
> 20/34	 1:00 	+1.56 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 Kd7 6.Kb5 Ke8
>7.Kc4 Kf7 8.Kd3 Kxf6 9.Ke4 Ke7 10.Ke3 Kd6 11.Kf3 (16.117.547) 266.4
>
>New game,
>8/5p2/2k3pp/4PP1P/p1K3P1/8/8/8 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Shredder 7.04:
>
>1...gxf5 2.g5 a3 3.gxh6 a2 4.h7 a1Q 5.h8Q Qa4+ 6.Kd3
>  µ  (-0.91)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:00
>  ²  (0.40)   Depth: 8/15   00:00:00  14kN, tb=54
>1...a3 2.e6 fxe6 3.fxg6 a2 4.g7 a1Q 5.g8Q Qe5 6.Kd3
>  ²  (0.39)   Depth: 8/19   00:00:01  21kN, tb=144
>  =  (0.09)   Depth: 8/21   00:00:01  30kN, tb=165
>1...gxh5 2.gxh5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 4.e6 fxe6 5.f6 Kd6 6.Kxa3
>  =  (0.08)   Depth: 8/21   00:00:01  34kN, tb=179
>  ²  (0.39)   Depth: 9/14   00:00:01  39kN, tb=263
>1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 e5 6.Kb5
>  ²  (0.38)   Depth: 9/19   00:00:02  54kN, tb=381
>  =  (0.03)   Depth: 10/16   00:00:02  66kN, tb=402
>1...a3 2.Kb3 gxf5 3.gxf5 Kd5 4.e6 Kd6 5.exf7 Ke7 6.Ka2 Kxf7 7.Kxa3
>  =  (0.02)   Depth: 10/22   00:00:03  90kN, tb=573
>  =  (0.01)   Depth: 11/25   00:00:05  164kN, tb=1207
>1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 Kd7 6.Kb5 Ke8 7.Kc4 Kf7 8.Kd3 Kxf6
>9.Ke4 Ke7 10.Ke5 Kf7 11.Kd4 Kf6 12.Ke4 Ke7 13.Ke5 Kf7 14.Kd4 Kf6 15.Ke4 Ke7
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11/25   00:00:05  171kN, tb=1213
>  -+  (-1.56)   Depth: 26/47   00:14:50  92589kN, tb=276305
>
>(,  01.06.2004)

Every things is wrong, but what?

GUI=Shredder Classic
Hardware=P3 600
Tablebases=64Mb
TBs Cache=16MB

Analysis runs--->

Engine: Shredder 7.04
von Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
Position:
Neue Partie    -                Blitz:5' Privat        2004 0-1
  1.00	 0:00 	+1.44-- 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 (2) 0.0
  1.00	 0:00 	+1.44 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 (4) 0.1
  1.00	 0:00 	+2.35++ 	1...a3 (9) 0.3
  1.00	 0:00 	+2.35 	1...a3 (10) 0.3
  2.00	 0:00 	+0.38-- 	1...a3 2.fxg6 fxg6 (18) 0.6
  2.00	 0:00 	+0.97 	1...a3 2.Kb3 (29) 1.0
  2.00	 0:00 	+2.04++ 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 (38) 1.3
  2.00	 0:00 	+2.04 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 (46) 1.6
  3.00	 0:00 	+0.60-- 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 (80) 2.8
  3.00	 0:00 	+0.60 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 (106) 3.7
  3.00	 0:00 	+0.66++ 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.Kxa4 Kxe5 (192) 6.8
  3.00	 0:00 	+0.66 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.Kxa4 Kxe5 (203) 7.2
  4.00	 0:00 	+0.66 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.Kxa4 Kxe5 (317) 11.3
  4.00	 0:00 	+0.78++ 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 (368) 13.1
  4.00	 0:00 	+0.78 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 (437) 14.0
  5.00	 0:00 	+0.91 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 4.Kxa3 Kxe5 (852) 27.4
  6.00	 0:00 	+0.91 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 4.Kxa3 Kxe5 (1.998) 31.7
  7.00	 0:00 	+0.62-- 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 4.e6 fxe6 5.fxe6 Kd6 (3.262)
35.8
  7.00	 0:00 	+0.62 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 4.e6 fxe6 5.fxe6 Kd6 (3.951)
27.8
  8.01	 0:00 	+0.29-- 	1...gxf5 2.gxf5 a3 3.Kb3 a2 4.Kxa2 Kc5 5.e6 fxe6 (7.047)
31.7
  8.01	 0:00 	-0.21-- 	1...gxf5 2.g5 Kb6 3.gxh6 Ka5 4.e6 f4 5.exf7 (12.066) 46.2
  8.01	 0:00 	-0.40 	1...gxf5 2.g5 a3 3.gxh6 a2 4.h7 a1D 5.h8D Da4+ 6.Kd3
(14.268) 51.6
  8.02	 0:00 	-0.39++ 	1...a3 2.hxg6 fxg6 3.Kb3 gxf5 4.gxf5 h5 5.Kc4 (21.519)
44.3
  8.02	 0:00 	-0.09 	1...a3 2.e6 fxe6 3.fxg6 a2 4.g7 a1D 5.g8D De5 6.Kd3
(30.662) 56.1
  8.08	 0:00 	-0.08++ 	1...gxh5 2.Kb4 hxg4 3.e6 fxe6 4.Ka3 (34.211) 59.9
  8.08	 0:00 	+0.01 	1...gxh5 2.gxh5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 4.e6 fxe6 5.fxe6 Kxe6 6.Kxa3
(34.381) 60.2
  9.01	 0:00 	-0.27-- 	1...gxh5 2.gxh5 a3 3.Kb3 f6 4.Kxa3 fxe5 5.f6 Kd6 6.Kb4
(36.719) 55.8
  9.01	 0:00 	-0.39 	1...gxh5 2.gxh5 a3 3.Kb3 Kd5 4.e6 fxe6 5.f6 Kd6 6.Kxa3
(39.991) 55.4
  9.04	 0:00 	-0.38++ 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.Ka3 exf5 5.Ka2 fxg4 (54.973)
58.1
  9.04	 0:00 	-0.03++ 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.Ka3 exf5 5.Ka2 fxg4 (55.566)
58.3
  9.04	 0:00 	+0.11 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 e5 6.Kb5
(57.066) 59.6
 10.01	 0:01 	-0.03 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 e5 6.Kb5
(67.166) 66.0
 10.02	 0:01 	-0.02++ 	1...a3 2.e6 fxe6 3.hxg6 a2 4.g7 a1D 5.g5 hxg5 6.g8D exf5
7.Da8+ Dxa8 (91.247) 60.7
 10.02	 0:01 	-0.01 	1...a3 2.Kb3 gxf5 3.gxf5 Kd5 4.e6 Kd6 5.exf7 Ke7 6.Ka2 Kxf7
7.Kxa3 (118.953) 61.9
 11.01	 0:02 	-0.01 	1...a3 2.Kb3 gxf5 3.gxf5 Kd5 4.e6 Kd6 5.exf7 Ke7 6.Ka2 Kxf7
7.Kxa3 (173.613) 66.2
 11.02	 0:02 	 0.00++ 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.f7 Ke7 6.Kc4
(180.723) 68.0
 11.02	 0:02 	+0.35++ 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.fxe6 Kxe6 5.Kxa4 Kf6 6.Kb5
Ke5 7.Kc6 (182.768) 68.4
 11.02	 0:02 	+1.16 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 e5 6.Kb5 Ke6
(189.075) 70.0
 12.01	 0:02 	+1.41++ 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.Ka3 exf5 5.Kb4 fxg4 6.Ka5
(213.000) 73.8
 12.01	 0:02 	+1.91++ 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.Kxa4 Kxe5 4.f6 Kxf6 5.Kb5 Ke6 6.Kc6 f5
7.Kb7 (221.550) 75.7
 12.01	 0:02 	+1.91 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 a3 (228.879) 77.4
 13.01	 0:03 	+1.87 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 e5 6.f7 Ke7
7.Kb3 Kxf7 8.Kc4 (285.354) 86.5
 14.01	 0:04 	+1.91 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 e5 6.Ka5 Ke6
7.Kb4 Kxf6 8.Kc3 Kg7 9.Kb2 Kf6 10.Kc3 Kg7 11.Kb2 Kf6 12.Kc3 Kg7 (384.063) 95.2
 15.01	 0:04 	+1.66-- 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 e5 6.Kb5 Kd5
7.f7 Ke6 8.f8D Kd5 9.Dxh6 (496.166) 106.0
 15.01	 0:04 	+1.66 	1...g5 2.e6 fxe6 3.Kc3 exf5 4.Kb4 fxg4 5.Ka5 (527.193)
109.1
 16.01	 0:07 	+1.41-- 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 e5 5.f7 a3 6.f8D a2
(953.702) 134.4
 16.01	 0:07 	+1.41 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 Kd7 6.Kb3 Ke8
7.Kc2 Kf7 8.Kd1 Kxf6 9.Ke2 (991.760) 135.7
 17.01	 0:12 	+1.61 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 Kd7 6.Kb5 Ke8
7.Kc5 Kf7 8.Kb5 Kxf6 9.Ka4 e5 10.Kb4 e4 11.Kb5 Ke6 12.Ka5 Ke5 13.Kb5 Kf4
(1.897.456) 153.3
 18.01	 0:16 	+1.36-- 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 Kd7 6.Kb5 Ke8
7.Kc5 e5 8.f7+ Kd7 9.f8D Ke6 (2.516.690) 154.0
 18.01	 0:16 	+0.86-- 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 e5 6.Kb4 e4
7.Kc4 Kc6 8.Kc3 e3 9.f7 e2 10.f8D e1D+ 11.Kb2 Df2+ 12.Dxf2 (2.558.728) 155.1
 18.01	 0:18 	 0.00 	1...g5 2.Kb4 Kd5 3.e6 fxe6 4.f6 Kd6 5.Kxa4 e5 6.Kb4 Ke6
7.Kc4 Kf7 8.Kc5 Ke6 9.Kc4 Kf7 10.Kc5 Ke6 11.Kc4 Kf7 (2.852.304) 158.3
 18.07	 2:03 	+0.01++ 	1...a3 2.e6 fxe6 3.hxg6 a2 4.g7 a1D 5.g8D Df1+ 6.Kb4 Df4+
7.Kb3 Df3+ 8.Kc4 Df4+ 9.Kc3 Df3+ 10.Kc4 Df4+ 11.Kc3 Df3+ 12.Kc4 Df4+
(20.221.639) 164.1

2004.06.02

Eduard

• Re: Hello Stefan, what is here wrong? Eduard Nemeth 22:53:16 06/01/04
  • Re: Hello Stefan, ich habe die Fehlerquelle gefunden (german) Eduard Nemeth 23:41:46 06/01/04
    • Re: Hello Stefan, ich habe die Fehlerquelle gefunden (german) Mike Hood 04:39:23 06/02/04
      • Re: Hello Stefan, ich habe die Fehlerquelle gefunden (german) Eduard Nemeth 07:40:01 06/02/04
        • Re: Nochmal das Ganze unter Shredder Classic (Step after Step) Eduard Nemeth 08:56:11 06/02/04
          • Re: Nochmal das Ganze unter Shredder Classic (Step after Step) Mike Hood 09:51:26 06/02/04
            • Re: Nochmal das Ganze unter Shredder Classic ! Eduard Nemeth 11:26:44 06/02/04
              • Re: Nochmal das Ganze unter Shredder Classic ! Mike Hood 16:47:01 06/02/04
                • Re: Nochmal das Ganze unter Shredder Classic ! Eduard Nemeth 02:06:50 06/03/04

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