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Subject: Re: New list WCCC participants and Free Hardware

Author: James Swafford

Date: 13:03:10 06/02/04

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On June 02, 2004 at 10:06:22, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On May 29, 2004 at 16:13:24, James Swafford wrote:
>
>>On May 29, 2004 at 14:15:37, Frank Phillips wrote:
>>
>>>On May 29, 2004 at 12:53:54, James Swafford wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 29, 2004 at 11:53:29, Frank Phillips wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 29, 2004 at 11:44:58, James Swafford wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On May 29, 2004 at 11:35:07, Frank Phillips wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On May 29, 2004 at 04:00:31, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I don't think so. The program still has weaknesses that a bit of
>>>>>>>>extra hardware will not overcome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>GCP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What are these weaknesses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bob may even be able to fix them before the event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>He was talking about his program, not Crafty.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks.  I misread the post.
>>>>>
>>>>>But I am still interested in the weaknesses being referred to by GCP, which are
>>>>>resistant to faster hardware.  I have so many myself.  If only I knew what they
>>>>>were :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>As in, "I can't seem to mate Shredder, even with faster hardware!" ?? :)
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>James
>>>
>>>
>>>I guess the answer is yes, although I have never had better hardware - and am
>>>not SMP, so probably never will.
>>>
>>>See you tonight at ICC author's only tournament ?  :-)
>>
>>NOt as a competitor-- my thing is nowhere near strong enough
>>to compete yet.  I'm hoping to be able to compete in the next
>>CCT, though.
>
>Are you still doing the learning stuff?

I've been working with TDLeaf quite a bit.  At some point I'll
post something with some meat to it, but to sum it up, I'm
not nearly as optimistic about it as I once was.

In my experience, TDLeaf can train the material weights, and it
can even produce an evaluation vector that's superior to a
'material only' vector.  I am not convinced it's useful for
training a complex vector, nor am I convinced it does a better
job than hand tuning.  For that matter, I am not even
convinced it converges to the optimal vector!

Caveat: it's possible (though I think it's unlikely) that
my implementation is flawed.  My engine will become open source
at some point (maybe after the next CCT), so you can judge
for yourself then.

Will Singleton and I had a bet on this... I conceited defeat
the other day.  THe original bet was for the loser to fly
the winner and spouse across country for drinks. :)  I'm
pretty sure Will's decided he'll forego that if I show up
at a tourney, but that's his call.

I'm still very interested in learning algorithms, but I'll
be focusing on improving my evaluation for a while.

Again- I will post some data at some point.

--
James




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