Author: Kurt Utzinger
Date: 02:39:17 06/05/04
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On June 05, 2004 at 04:34:54, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:
>On June 05, 2004 at 04:17:09, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On June 05, 2004 at 03:38:18, Reinhard Scharnagl wrote:
>>
>>>On June 05, 2004 at 02:48:39, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 04, 2004 at 18:39:13, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Since computer can hold and remember more Opening than any Human and they are at
>>>>>the level of the very best human players such as Kasparov, Anand and Kramnik'
>>>>>the need for Fischer Random Chess will become more popular in the next 5 years.
>>>>>Even a player such as former world champion Garry Kasparov who has incredible
>>>>>memorization capabilities, complained that he could not always remember his
>>>>>opening preparation. Therefore, it will become justifiable to match the very
>>>>>best human against the very vest FRC program. Probably very soon Shredder and
>>>>>Hiarcs will also be available in FRC.
>>>>>
>>>>>PS: There is no human brain that can compete with the mass storage device
>>>>>available for current PC.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.geocities.com/MIGHTORS1/Leko/Fischerandom1.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Will FRC ever become so popular than classic chess?
>>>> I really doubt in particular for two reasons: humans
>>>> will even have more difficulties to keep up with
>>>> computers. And furthermore: humans like to play
>>>> according to patterns and firm rules: both is
>>>> almost impossible with FRC and at the beginning of
>>>> a game, all looks very chaotical. But the future
>>>> will tell ...
>>>> Kurt
>>>
>>>Hi Kurt,
>>>
>>>you wrote: ... all looks very chaotical ... but that is only
>>>a variant to the situation, where your opening knowledge has
>>>come to its end. Indeed that point is reached a 'little earlier'
>>>within FRC. But this is not a weakness of FRC but one of its
>>>main intentions. A creative postional and combinatorical game
>>>from its beginning has been created.
>>>
>>>Additionally to that there soon will be a new German book on FRC:
>>>[http://homepages.compuserve.de/rescharn/Down/FRC_Materialien.pdf]
>>>[http://homepages.compuserve.de/rescharn/Compu/fullchess1_e.html]
>>>
>>>Regards, Reinhard.
>>
>> Hi Reinhard
>
>Hi Kurt,
>
>> Oops: as soon as books are available for FRC, humans
>> chances to even get a draw vs computers will diminish
>> to zero. Under such prospects the development of FRC-books
>> is more a regress than a progress. Nowadays it is still
>> possible for me to draw a game against the best programs
>> from time to time ... but in FRC I think this will never
>> happen. And this will not at all courage me to play a
>> FRC-game vs a computer program. FRC is perhaps doomed
>> to failure before it has started to get some popularity.
>> Kurt
>
>I am very sure, that there is a misunderstanding between us.
>
>I am not talking on opening books for FRC which indeed would be
>very counter productive. And that would of course also be against
>my proposal to limit the size of chess programs when playing
>for Elo rangs (analysing bolides are not targetted by that).
>
>Therefore I wrote a (human readable) book with the intention to
>clear up such prejustices and misunderstandings which seem to
>play a role in such discussions.
>
>Regards, Reinhard.
Hi Reinhard
Indeed a misunderstanding between us. Many thanks
for your clarification.
Kurt
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