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Subject: Re: weak engines?

Author: Mark Young

Date: 14:46:05 06/05/04

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On June 05, 2004 at 10:13:53, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 05, 2004 at 09:54:55, Marc wrote:
>
>>Maybe a bit off topic here ...
>>
>>Of course it is nice to watch a much too strong engine to wipe you of the board,
>>over and over again. But eventually this gets a bit boring.
>>So I wonder, has anybody programmed an engine which is not really strong, but
>>fun to play against? (about ELO 1700-1900)
>>
>>Crippling a strong engine is somewhat dissatisfying, for some reason.
>
>The problem is not in the engines but in the hardware that you have.
>It is too fast.
>
>It is only the hardware that make the impression that engines are better than
>1900.
>
>You should ask for hardware that is 10000 times slower than the hardware that
>you have.
>
>The real smart people are not the programmers but the people who build hardware
>that is faster every year and I have no idea how they do it.
>
>The fact that it seems to me that most of the progress in the last 30 years were
>done thanks to better hardware and not thanks to better software suggest that
>we(the programmers) are relatively stupid.
>
>Uri


"The fact that it seems to me that most of the progress in the last 30 years
were done thanks to better hardware and not thanks to better software suggest
that
we(the programmers) are relatively stupid."


Wow! Now you tell me. I could have saved much money on chess programs.

You need to tell this to the newer versions of Fritz, Shredder, and Junior etc.
They have yet to here this decree made by you. And for some unknown reason. The
newer programs seem to do much better then the older generation of programs, on
the same hardware. Be it computer vs. computer, computer vs. human, or test
positions.

All kidding aside. I wonder if other programmers here agree with this. As only a
tester and not a programmer I disagree strongly. Much progress has been made in
both areas. I think the data strongly backs it up...



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