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Subject: Re: how to evaluate KRP vs KR

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 16:00:53 06/05/04

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On June 05, 2004 at 16:53:20, Tord Romstad wrote:

>On June 05, 2004 at 15:26:53, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>
>>We need to get Nalimov to write some W/L/D tables.
>
>I am not sure I agree.  Implementing simple high-level rules for evaluating
>endgames
>like KRPKR correctly is a difficult, but very valuable excercise.   The reason
>is that you
>will sometimes discover principles which are also useful in more complicated
>endgames, but which are much more easily noticed when there are just a few piece
>left.  If you rely too heavily on bitbases and tablebases in the early phases of
>development, you lose the chance to make such discoveries.
>
>This applies to human chess players as well as computers.  I spent a lot of time
>studying the KRPKR endgame when I was young.  I cannot remember a single
>tournament game I played in which this endgame appeared on the board, but
>the heuristic knowledge learned by studying this endgame helped me save a
>lot of half points in rook endgames with numerous pawns.  Studying basic
>endgames gives you a unique chance to learn about the strengths and
>weaknesses of the individual pieces and how they interact.
>
>My experience as a tournament player was that knowledge of basic endgames
>decided a much bigger fraction of the games than concrete opening knowledge.
>This is one of the reasons I find it hard to understand the FRC enthusiasts.

I think that the middle game is the most important stage.
My experience suggests that a lot of games are decided in the middle game and
even if they are decided in the endgame if the decision is between draw and a
win for myself than this may be thanks to better play in the middle game.

I think that I need to improve the middle game knowledge and better endgame
knowledge is lower priority.

Uri



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