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Subject: Updating PGN Standard

Author: William Bryant

Date: 08:08:14 06/07/04

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On June 06, 2004 at 16:25:40, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 06, 2004 at 11:39:03, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On June 06, 2004 at 10:34:40, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On June 06, 2004 at 10:28:30, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 06, 2004 at 10:16:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 06, 2004 at 03:11:50, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Graham
>>>>>>Nice to see that you post these games in the
>>>>>>old and readable PGN-format.
>>>>>>Kurt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Actually that is _not_ "PGN format".
>>>>[...]
>>>>
>>>>     Of course, this is not the PGN-format. I was
>>>>     so happy to see the readable notation that I
>>>>     completely overlooked this.
>>>>     Kurt
>>>
>>>
>>>This readability issue is why it is time to revise the PGN standard.  It has
>>>been suggested that XML be used, which is probably the right idea.  But the
>>>standard is getting corrupted with the stuff ChessBase has added and it makes
>>>sense to come up with a better "standard" before what they are doing becomes the
>>>"standard" by default
>>
>>
>>       Is it indeed time to revise the PGN standard? Even with
>>       ChessBase it's possible to save the games in the usual
>>       PGN standard instead using the new stuff. The "old" format
>>       is unfortunately not the default setting for ChessBase
>>       programs.
>>       Kurt
>
>
>I really think it needs revision.  IE there needs to be a "standard" way to
>include evaluation, depth, time, and other such things.  Programs are putting
>these into comments at the present, but comments are free-form so that there is
>no guarantee that another program can read and understand the info that is
>included.

I have been gone for a while.  Wasn't Steven going to do this about 2 years ago.
 He was soliciting suggestions for an updated standard.

William



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