Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 09:11:39 06/07/04
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On June 07, 2004 at 11:08:14, William Bryant wrote: >On June 06, 2004 at 16:25:40, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On June 06, 2004 at 11:39:03, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>>On June 06, 2004 at 10:34:40, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On June 06, 2004 at 10:28:30, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 06, 2004 at 10:16:42, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On June 06, 2004 at 03:11:50, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi Graham >>>>>>>Nice to see that you post these games in the >>>>>>>old and readable PGN-format. >>>>>>>Kurt >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Actually that is _not_ "PGN format". >>>>>[...] >>>>> >>>>> Of course, this is not the PGN-format. I was >>>>> so happy to see the readable notation that I >>>>> completely overlooked this. >>>>> Kurt >>>> >>>> >>>>This readability issue is why it is time to revise the PGN standard. It has >>>>been suggested that XML be used, which is probably the right idea. But the >>>>standard is getting corrupted with the stuff ChessBase has added and it makes >>>>sense to come up with a better "standard" before what they are doing becomes the >>>>"standard" by default >>> >>> >>> Is it indeed time to revise the PGN standard? Even with >>> ChessBase it's possible to save the games in the usual >>> PGN standard instead using the new stuff. The "old" format >>> is unfortunately not the default setting for ChessBase >>> programs. >>> Kurt >> >> >>I really think it needs revision. IE there needs to be a "standard" way to >>include evaluation, depth, time, and other such things. Programs are putting >>these into comments at the present, but comments are free-form so that there is >>no guarantee that another program can read and understand the info that is >>included. > >I have been gone for a while. Wasn't Steven going to do this about 2 years ago. > He was soliciting suggestions for an updated standard. > >William Yes, but I have heard nothing there. There is a new proposal to develop a standard to replace PGN and basing it on XML. current PGN would be accepted with no problem, but this would give a standard way to deal with the NAG problem, not to mention adding evaluations, and other details...
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