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Subject: Re: probably yes, but slower than an AMD 64 3000+

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:02:39 06/08/04

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On June 08, 2004 at 10:48:59, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On June 08, 2004 at 10:04:26, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On June 08, 2004 at 09:24:04, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>>
>>>On June 08, 2004 at 08:25:45, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 08, 2004 at 08:11:54, Joachim Rang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 08, 2004 at 06:36:37, Chris Taylor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Have not had time to fully experiment with the thing yet, but early indications
>>>>>>show it to be a tad faster.  Will do some bench marking!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Any one had any good reports with the C 1.7?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would like to squeeze some more nps for Crafty, and Rebel 12..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The Athlon XP 3000+ is clocked with 2100 MHz and according to this page it will
>>>>>peform worse than the Pentium - M 1.7 Ghz, but don't forget the Athlon XP 3000+
>>>>>costs half the price of C 1.7. An AMD 64 3000+ which is still much cheaper than
>>>>>an C 1.7 is even faster than C 1.7 and will gain from 64 Bit - Software in the
>>>>>near future:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.beepworld.de/members39/computerschach2/chessmarks.htm
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for the link.
>>>>I am surprised by the good results of the new pIV because I learned here that
>>>>the PIV is bad for chess and it catches the 3th place in the list.
>>>>
>>>>I thought that the PIV is generasted for floating points numbers and not for
>>>>chess.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>Not sure what you mean Uri, better with the FPU maybe? Infact the P4 quite bad
>>>with raw FPU instructions. Relative to Athlon XP/MP chips anyway...
>>
>>
>>Here is part of the list:
>>
>>PIV-3.06/3,7GHz   1374 Kn/s    Erdo (Wortmann-PC)
>>DualXeon 3,565    1326 kn/s    Jens H. (Fritz8; 1 CPU)
>>Athlon64 "3200+"  1333 KN/s    Werner Schüle (2.2GHz; Serie 2.0 GHz!!)
>>Ahtlon64 3400+    1334 KN/s    Norbert Baumann (2.2 GHz)
>>
>>I thought that the PIV is bad for chess so I am surprised that it is better than
>>some athlon64 hardware.
>
>I'm not sure if this is a test to compare hardware or a test to see which
>hardware is best for Fritz, but Fritz 8 does not support 64 bit, AFAIK.
>
>I don't think the PIV would stand a chance against a native 64 bit Fritz version
>for the Athlon64. So in this respect, Fritz is not the best benchmark tool.
>
>I'd use Crafty and possibly some other opensource chess progrogram that isn't a
>bitboarder, then test the best 32 bit versus the best 64 bit compiles.
>
>I prefer benchmark tools which are opensource, everyone should know that there's
>no fishy business going on.
>
>-S.

I would agree.  Crafty on a single-cpu 848 (2.2ghz opteron) is _faster_ than
Crafty on my dual 2.8ghz xeon using both processors.  The single-cpu opteron
hits around 2M (and beyond) NPS.  My dual xeon hits below 2M on the same test.
An Opteron 850 is 10% faster...  (FX53 clock speed).





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