Author: Gerd Isenberg
Date: 02:14:54 06/10/04
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On June 09, 2004 at 14:50:20, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On June 09, 2004 at 14:04:44, Rémi Coulom wrote: > >>On June 09, 2004 at 13:58:01, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On June 09, 2004 at 08:31:16, Rémi Coulom wrote: >>> >>>>On June 09, 2004 at 07:59:09, Kolss wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 09, 2004 at 07:28:09, Rémi Coulom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On June 09, 2004 at 05:36:44, Peter Berger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On June 09, 2004 at 03:54:25, Mark Winands wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>2. The tournament will be an 11-round Swiss-system event, using standard >>>>>>>>(non-accelerated) Swiss pairings. The provisional playing schedule was given on >>>>>>>>page 293 of the December issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>In case there were only 13 participants I wonder if it would really be possible >>>>>>>to do legal Swiss pairings for 11 rounds - probably not. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>If we are 13, I think it would be best to have a 12th round and play round >>>>>>robin. The playing programme has plenty of big holes. It would be so much better >>>>>>to play round robin, that it would be worth the effort of organizing a 12th >>>>>>round, in my opinion. >>>>>> >>>>>>Rémi >>>>> >>>>>Hi, >>>>> >>>>>You need 2 more rounds to make a round robin event with 13 participants (=> 13 >>>>>rounds). I don't know whether the schedule permits for this... >>>>> >>>>>Munjong. >>>> >>>>Yes, sorry. That may still be worth the effort, though. >>>> >>>>Rémi >>> >>>A round robin will tell much more exactly what places 2-12 are, but it won't >>>give a more precise victor and last place (which is what Swiss is designed for) >>>unless you play more games in total. >> >>My main concern was about making sure that the tournament is not over after 5 >>rounds. Pairing for round robin can be arranged so that the most important games >>are played in the last rounds. I think this would make the tournament a lot more >>exciting. >> >>Rémi > > >Correct. Another alternative is to play 6 rounds where each round is a pair of >games where each player gets black and white. That turns it into a 6 round >event, 12 games played, but with 6 rounds the important games will be near the >end if pairings are done sanely with none of the "flip a coin" nonsense that has >been done in the past... There were other alternatives discussed before, groups and delayed swiss: http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=352170 There was a poll, with the assumption to play 11 rounds. Most programmers or potential participants prefere a 11 round swiss. Let's see, the deadline is still open and there is hope we become a few more... Otherwise there is still the chance to pick up your interesting proposal, may be slightly modified, where the first round is not a pair but all other 5 rounds to achieve exactly 11 rounds. Gerd
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