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Subject: Re: Steinitz-Zukertort ( Match, London, 1872) Revisited..Results Wanted

Author: John Merlino

Date: 16:16:47 06/10/04

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On June 10, 2004 at 19:02:08, Daniel Jackson wrote:

>On June 10, 2004 at 18:49:25, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On June 10, 2004 at 09:22:10, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?369410
>>>CM9K needs far too much time
>>
>>Confirmed. This one actually gives the King of Mate Finders a tough time. On an
>>AMD 2500+, there is still no mate announced after more than 20 minutes:
>>
>>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>>0:00	1/3	1.16	3164		1.Qxf3 Rf7 2.Rxg6+ hxg6
>>0:00	1/3	2.81	3593		1.Rh5 Qd7 2.Qxd7 Rxd7
>>0:00	1/3	2.98	5583		1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Qh5+ Kg8 3.Qxg6+
>>					Kf8 4.Qf6+ Ke8 5.Qxf3
>>0:00	1/4	2.98	7836		1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Qh5+ Kg8 3.Qxg6+
>>					Kf8 4.Qf6+ Ke8 5.Qxf3
>>0:00	1/5	2.65	23623		1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Qh5+ Kg8 3.Qxg6+
>>					Rg7 4.Qe8+ Kh7 5.Qh5+ Kg8 6.Qxf3
>>					Qd7 7.Rf6
>>0:00	1/5	3.06	39787		1.Rh5 b4 2.Rf5 Qd7 3.Qxd7 Rxd7
>>0:00	1/6	3.44	102647		1.Rh5 b4 2.Rf5 Qd7 3.Rd6 Qe8 4.Qxf3
>>0:01	1/7	3.22	228843		1.Rh5 b4 2.Rf5 Rc7 3.Rc4 Qa6 4.Rxf3
>>					Rxc4 5.Qxc4 Qxa2 6.Qxb4
>>0:01	1/7	8.25	274334		1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Qh5+ Kg8 3.Rxg6+
>>					Rg7 4.Rh6 Kf8 5.Rf6+ Kg8 6.Qe8+
>>					Kh7 7.Qe6 Rg6 8.Rxg6
>>0:02	1/8	8.36	445155		1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Qh5+ Kg8 3.Rxg6+
>>					Rg7 4.Re6 Qf7 5.Re8+ Qf8 6.Rxf8+
>>					Kxf8 7.Qc5+ Re7 8.Qc8+ Kg7 9.Qg4+
>>					Kf8 10.Qxf3+ Rf7
>>0:03	1/9	8.24	808428		1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Qh5+ Kg8 3.Rxg6+
>>					Rg7 4.Re6 Qe7 5.Rxe7 Rxe7 6.Qxb5
>>					Rf7 7.Qg5+ Rg7 8.Qd5+ Rf7 9.Kf2
>>0:06	1/10	8.49	1907310		1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Qh5+ Kg8 3.Rxg6+
>>					Rg7 4.Rh6 Kf8 5.Rh8+ Rg8 6.Qc5+
>>					Kg7 7.Qe5+ Kf8 8.Qd6+ Kf7 9.Qf4+
>>					Ke6 10.Qe5+ Kd7 11.Qf5+ Kc7 12.Rxg8
>>0:20	1/11	12.97	7062116		1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Qh5+ Kg8 3.Rxg6+
>>					Rg7 4.Rh6 Kf8 5.Rh8+ Rg8 6.Qc5+
>>					Kg7 7.Qe5+ Kf8 8.Qd6+ Kf7 9.Qf4+
>>					Ke6 10.Qe5+ Kf7 11.Rh7+ Kg6 12.Rxb7
>>0:35	1/12	13.00	12404858	1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Qh5+ Kg8 3.Rxg6+
>>					Rg7 4.Rh6 Kf8 5.Rh8+ Rg8 6.Qc5+
>>					Kg7 7.Qe5+ Kf8 8.Qd6+ Kf7 9.Qf4+
>>					Ke6 10.Rh6+ Ke7 11.Rh7+ Ke8 12.Qe5+
>>					Kd8 13.Rxb7
>>1:43	2/13	14.29	36484620	1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Qh5+ Kg8 3.Rxg6+
>>					Rg7 4.Rh6 Kf8 5.Rh8+ Rg8 6.Qc5+
>>					Kg7 7.Qe5+ Kf8 8.Qd6+ Kf7 9.Qf4+
>>					Ke6 10.Rh6+ Kd7 11.Qf7+ Kc8 12.Qxg8+
>>					Kc7 13.Qf7+ Kb8 14.Rh8+ Qc8 15.Rxc8+
>>					Kxc8 16.Qxf3
>>5:37	3/14	15.02	119667806	1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Qh5+ Kg8 3.Rxg6+
>>					Rg7 4.Rh6 Kf8 5.Rh8+ Rg8 6.Qc5+
>>					Kg7 7.Qe5+ Kf8 8.Qd6+ Qe7 9.Rxg8+
>>					Kxg8 10.Qxe7 a5 11.Qd8+ Kf7 12.Qxa5
>>					Kg7 13.Qxb5
>>21:39	4/15	15.29	453287076	1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Qh5+ Kg8 3.Rxg6+
>>					Rg7 4.Rh6 Kf8 5.Rh8+ Rg8 6.Qc5+
>>					Kg7 7.Qe5+ Kf8 8.Qd6+ Qe7 9.Rxg8+
>>					Kxg8 10.Qxe7 a5 11.Qd8+ Kf7 12.Qxa5
>>					Ke6 13.Qxb5 Kd6 14.Kf2
>>
>>Of course, it DOES find the right move in only one second!
>>
>>jm
>
>Indeed it does! It's a bit puzzling why CM9K finds the right line but not the
>mate in a reasonable time.
>Could it be the mate has a technical ending with quiet moves, i.e. promoting the
>pawn on d4?
>
>Daniel

That would most likely be it. Johan would be the one to confirm this, but any
very deep mate that has a non-check/non-capture move way down the chain would be
difficult to find.

jm



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