Author: George Tsavdaris
Date: 06:50:05 06/11/04
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On June 11, 2004 at 08:36:19, Uri Blass wrote: >On June 11, 2004 at 05:53:23, George Tsavdaris wrote: > >>On June 10, 2004 at 19:08:05, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>On June 10, 2004 at 18:55:23, mike tubbs wrote: >>> >>>>Hi >>>> >>>>I'm a newbie, i was wondering what the strength of the current top five is on >>>>ordinary hardware xp2000+? Are they Grandmaster Strength yet? >>> >>>Even in 1999 with a mere 450 Mhz, please take a look :-) >>> >>>http://www.geocities.com/marochess/ssdf/ssdf.htm >> >>YOU said the truth and now you forgot your own words? >> >>You said at http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?369716: >>"...since I always believe that the SSDF rating List is way too inflated and >>people here on this forum immediately compare the top 10 programs from the SSDF >>with Humans grandmaster and if the human doesn't have and Elo higher than >>> 2700 we don't consider them worthy. >>PS: We need to take into consideration that the SSDF rating is simply a comp vs >>comp rating and nothin more." >> >> And now you give SSDF's list of 1999, to support the statement that engines was >>GM strength because their SSDF ELO was more than 2600?? >> >> >> SSDF's engines ELO, doesn't have almost nothing to do with engines ELO against >>humans. No one can believe that Shredder on an Athlon 1200MHz is 2800+ ELO. If >>this was the case, then on a 2800+ XP would be 2900+. Too optimistic! > >I do not see how can you get this conclusion. > >How do you know that the difference between >shredder8 A1200 and shredder8 2800+ XP is 100 elo against humans? You are right. I don't know it. I just put the perfect rounded number 100, for being the difference between XP 2800+ and Athlon 1200 MHz. The difference could be any number(I believe positive). >Maybe it is only 40 elo. > >Assume that you are right that shredder on A1200 is weaker than 2800. >How do you know that the ssdf list is also inflated for engines of 1999. >Maybe it is only inflated for engines of 2004? The only thing i claim is that the SSDF list is coming from eng-eng matches, so the ELO's of the engines on the SSDF list, is not with almost any way, comparable to the ELO's of the humans in the FIDE list. > >Uri
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