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Subject: Re: How do you know ....

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 04:16:17 06/12/04

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On June 12, 2004 at 06:22:50, Manfred Meiler wrote:

>On June 11, 2004 at 20:56:37, Franz Hagra wrote:
>
>>>How do you know that "my weaker hardware AMD 1400 (does never change to Rad8
>>>because it) can't go deep as 12"? Did you test it yourself?
>>
>>Because you have published this data in your Excel-Sheet:
>>
>>Fritz 8c; 256 MB Hash;8,0,0,23;.eng 03.03.03 on AMD 1400
>>depth=7/26 solve-t=1
>>
>>And on the other hand who do you explain this behavior
>>also from your Excel Data)
>>
>>Fritz------solve_t----depth
>>--8c---------1---------7/26
>>--6a--------23--------10/29
>>--X3D-------79--------11/32
>>--8--------537--------13/36
>>--7d-------993--------14/37
>>
>>I think every one can see the correlation between reached depth and solve_t!
>>
>>Simple question: Why have engine worse solve_t when the reach more depth?
>>(and why no one of the authors have seen this in the data - do you only produce
>>data without looking at them? - is this really a test methode?)
>>
>>Hagra
>>
>>PS: The WM test is also no test in mathematical or statistic sensce at all!
>
>
>
>For my answer please look at
>http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/100888.htm.
>
>Manfred


It's a desaster how you and Gurevich treat a critic like Hagra. Your own data
are thought to be beyond any critic but if someone gives his own data then it
can be doubted?? Where did you learn such a logic? And what is it if Gurevich,
yes, he's an academic doctor, I know, that before one criticises one should
"ask" before? Where did the doctor learn such a nonsense? A critic is a question
itself. And it should be answered with respect. A critic is NOT an insult or
disrespect. A critic is the only tool to make progress.

Hagra did find opposing data to yours and I too. But you are not interested in
differing data. You are more behaving like a clerical who wants to exert his
power in a debate about the correct view. But this is not possible in field that
is more connected to science.

Please show your critics some respect because they have done a similar work you
liked to do. Yours isn't worthier as such only because your name is aleways
mentioned with the one of Gurevich.

Please discuss Hagra's results and also mine now and stop distributing fairy
tales in CSS. In CSS there is no open debate possible. Come here into CCC and
defend your work against reasonable criticism. We're not living in the Middle
Ages with its exorcism. So, stop defaming your critics.

Read my data for instance here:

http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?370049


Regards, Rolf



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