Author: Uri Blass
Date: 10:37:26 06/12/04
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On June 12, 2004 at 09:56:10, Bryan Hofmann wrote: >On June 12, 2004 at 09:43:04, Martin Grabriel wrote: > >>[d]8/p3k3/1p4p1/5b2/r6P/3pK3/4p3/2R5 w - - 0 1 >> >> >> >>At the above position, I can't understand why Fritz8 and Ruffian 105 both >>analyzed the position as 0.00 with the recommended move 52. Kf3. >> >> >>Obviously Black is winning and Shredder 8 shows it is so. >>There was no 3-fold rep as the pgn leading to the position (which is after move >>51) is as follows: >> >>[Event ""] >>[Site ""] >>[Date ""] >>[Round "?"] >>[White ""] >>[Black ""] >>[Result "0-1"] >>[ECO "B20"] >>[WhiteElo "1481"] >>[BlackElo "1499"] >>[PlyCount "120"] >>[EventDate "2004.??.??"] >> >>1. e4 c5 2. Bc4 e6 3. Qf3 Nc6 4. Nh3 Ne5 5. Qf4 Nxc4 6. Ng5 Qe7 7. d3 e5 8. Qg3 >>Nd6 9. O-O Nf6 10. h3 Nb5 11. Be3 Nd4 12. Bxd4 cxd4 13. Na3 Nh5 14. Qh4 g6 15. >>Nf3 Qxh4 16. Nxh4 Bxa3 17. bxa3 d6 18. Nf3 Nf4 19. Nd2 Ne2+ 20. Kh2 Nc3 21. Nc4 >>Ke7 22. f4 f6 23. g4 b6 24. g5 Rf8 25. fxe5 dxe5 26. gxf6+ Rxf6 27. Rxf6 Kxf6 >>28. Rf1+ Ke6 29. Ra1 Nb5 30. a4 Nd6 31. Nd2 Bd7 32. Nf3 Bxa4 33. Ng5+ Ke7 34. >>Nxh7 Bxc2 35. Rc1 Rc8 36. Rf1 Bxd3 37. Rg1 Bxe4 38. Ng5 Bf5 39. a4 Rc2+ 40. Kg3 >>Ra2 41. Re1 e4 42. a5 Rxa5 43. Kf4 e3 44. h4 Nf7 45. Nf3 Ra4 46. Rc1 e2 47. Ne1 >>d3+ 48. Ke3 Ne5 49. Nf3 Nxf3 50. Kxf3 Bg4+ 51. Ke3 Bf5 52. Kd2 Ra2+ 53. Ke3 d2 >>54. Rc7+ Kd8 55. Kxe2 Kxc7 56. h5 Bg4+ 57. Ke3 d1=Q 58. hxg6 Qf3+ 59. Kd4 Ra4+ >>60. Ke5 Qf5# 0-1 > > >It would appear that your not using EGTBs. With Ruffian 1.0.5 and 5 man tables I >get > >Ruffian 1.0.5 UCI 150 MB: > 1 00:00 -12.67 h5 > 1 00:00 -11.68 Re1 > 2 00:00 -13.53 Re1 Rxh4 > 2 00:00 -12.80 Rc7+ Kd6 Rc1 > 2 00:00 -12.33 Rh1 a6 > 3 00:00 -13.43 Rh1 Rxh4 Rxh4 e1Q+ > 3 00:00 -12.64 Re1 Rxh4 Rxe2 dxe2 Kxe2 > 3 00:00 -12.25 Kd2 Rxh4 Rc7+ Bd7 Rxa7 > 4 00:00 -12.30 Kd2 Rxh4 Ra1 Be4 Rxa7+ > 5 00:00 -13.28 Kd2 Ra2+ Ke3 d2 Rc7+ Kd6 Rc6+ Kxc6 Kxe2 > 5 00:00 -12.83 Re1 Rxh4 Rxe2 dxe2 Kxe2 g5 > 6 00:00 -12.88 Re1 Rxh4 Rxe2 Rh3+ Kd2+ dxe2 Kxe2 Bd3+ Kd2 g5 > 6 00:00 -13.38 h5 gxh5 Re1 Ra2 Kf4 Bg4 > 6 00:00 -12.88 Re1 Rxh4 Rxe2 Rh3+ Kd2+ dxe2 Kxe2 Bd3+ Kd2 g5 > 7 00:00 -12.88 Re1 Rxh4 Rxe2 Rh3+ Kd2+ dxe2 Kxe2 Bd3+ Kd2 g5 Kc3 > 8 00:00 -12.92 Re1 Rxh4 Kd2 Rc4 Rxe2+ dxe2 Kxe2 a5 Ke3 b5 > 9 00:00 -13.35 Re1 Rxh4 Kd2 a5 Rxe2+ dxe2 Kxe2 a4 Kd2 Rh2+ Kc3 b5 >10 00:00 -13.36 Re1 Rxh4 Rxe2 Rh3+ Kd2+ dxe2 Kxe2 a5 Kd2 Rd3+ Kc1 g5 Kc2 g4 >11 00:00 -13.56 Re1 Rxh4 Rxe2 Rh3+ Kd2+ dxe2 Kxe2 a5 Kd2 Rd3+ Kc2 b5 Kb2 b4 >Kc2 >12 00:01 -13.71 Re1 Rxh4 Kd2 a5 Rc1 Rb4 Ke3 Rc4 Re1 Rc2 Kf4 Rc4+ Ke3 >13 00:10 -13.97 Re1 Rxh4 Rxe2 Rh3+ Kd2+ dxe2 Kxe2 a5 Kd2 Rd3+ Kc2 b5 Kb2 b4 >Kc1 a4 Kc2 >14 00:20 -14.06 Re1 Rxh4 Rxe2 Rh3+ Kd2+ dxe2 Kxe2 a5 Kd2 Rd3+ Kc2 b5 Kb2 b4 >Kc2 b3+ Kc1 Rd1+ Kb2 a4 >15+ 00:31 -13.71 Re1 >15 00:32 -14.29 Re1 Rxh4 Rxe2 Rh3+ Kd2+ dxe2 Kxe2 a5 Kd2 Rd3+ Kc2 b5 Kb2 b4 >Kc2 b3+ >16+ 00:44 -13.94 Re1 >16- 00:49 -14.64 Re1 >16 00:50 -14.91 Re1 Rxh4 Kd2 a5 Rc1 Rh2 Re1 a4 Kc3 a3 Ra1 b5 Kd2 b4 Rb1 e1Q+ >Kxe1 d2+ Kd1 Bxb1 It is clear that Egtb are not relevant here. programs may show 0.00 with the game simply because the main target of programmers is usually comp-comp game and not analysis. Uri Uri
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