Author: Rolf Tueschen
Date: 06:39:07 06/13/04
To Mike Scheidl, Christian Liebert and other CSS believers in the WM-Test!
You know now that after the verdict of Bob Hyatt your CSS WM-Test is dead. All
what you write now is typical for the censorship in CSS. You want to define what
something "in reality" "means" or better should mean in the eyes of CSS.
That Stellungstests, position tests, show flaws all over, from the start, from
the ide, from the calculations etc pp, that is clear by now.
Now you sing that song of the hooby testers who want to have just --- fun. If
that were the case then why the "Weltmeister-Test" is presented by CSS as the
first in the chapter about The Best Test...?? Is it allowed to conclude that you
thought it were the best test? Of course because you didn't just list them up
alphabetically. No. Weltmeistertest comes almost at the end of the alphabet but
that Gurevich test still is on number one place. Why?
Because it's the test that brings the people the most fun??? No!! Of course not,
but because it's the best test suite, following the makers of CSS.
Hey you guys, let's please relax a bit!
We ALL know here in CCC, that you, personally, are not that stupid to believe in
Stellungstests and its ratings. Of course you want to make fun for your
readership. That is clear and well understood.
Now what you should do in the future?
Just this:
If someone - mostly people from universities or other statistical students -
writes some questions about the WM-Test, do by all means clarify, that Michael
Gurevich, academic doctor BTW, has no chance to answer himself. Because he's in
a terrible double bind as test author. He has the typical black spot as an
expert. He did all correctly in his test suite but he did NOT reflect what the
100 World Champion Positions could maximally bring to the users. You say, and we
all agree, it can bring much fun. Yes, that's it. It's fun to follow the
analyses of the machines in such valuable human chess positions.
BUT - a big BUT!
Theoretically and practically that test with ONLY [!!] 100 positions can't hold
the water he's pretending he could. He's absolutely worthless - speaking in
terms of stats. If Michael G. could collect thousands of positions, only then it
would make sense. But of course this is practically impossible to do.
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Out of responsibility for my German collegues in the field I want to make the
following proposal! [copyright proposal Rolf T June 13, 2004]
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Michael Gurevich and his good team gets the offer from CSS to construct a new
test with say 30, 50 or 100 games from the best human chess, games that are
suiting the needs of a computer chess tester. Games that contain several top
positions - and the test can discover how the emgines behave in context of a
real game. Where are typical difficulties for machines... With proposals for the
programmers! Etc.
I see a tremendously interesting life-long task for Michael Gurevich and his
team. They would present the first valid and public computerchess test in
history!
Please let's look into the future and learn from the errors of our past. Let CSS
forum and journal become a place for all kind of creative people, practically
AND also theoretically with the combined criticism of the methodology. Then we
would all have much fun again with our hobby field.
Let's bury the axes of war from the past and let's care for the conditions of
the future - because we all know, that the persons who will be joining us in
that hobby will increase in numbers due to a complete change in our labour &
economical world. CSS and its makers have a guiding role in that important
social field of our Nations. But be prepared to use that role in a democratic
way without censorship and stigmatizing scapegoats.
[Already as 'Schachfan' I wrote such ideas to your CSS chief Steinwender. But as
it is in life, often people in power want to have themselves the best ideas and
reject the advice from abroad. Often Doctor titles can disturb your vision and
anonymous senders are a real pain in special if thought as females. It's not so
easy to adapt to new ideas. Therefore a good advisor like me does not ask for
recompensations for himself, he can wait until the power people suddenly decide
into the thought directions completely on their own! So I do NOT ask for my
re-inthronization into the CSS forum. No, my ideas have a better climate to grow
up here in CCC, in the international environment. Leave me out of CSS. But - DO
something for the best of your German clients! And computerchess as a whole.
Pleeeease!]
Best regards,
Schachfan Rolf
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