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Subject: Re: Gothmog-frc vs Frenzee-frc 1.59

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 13:19:58 06/13/04

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On June 13, 2004 at 13:27:27, Tord Romstad wrote:

>On June 13, 2004 at 12:25:44, Sune Fischer wrote:
>
>>Oh you're no fun at all, show us some of that "I am the greatest" attitude which
>>is ever so popular in these parts. ;)
>>
>>Seriously, I'd have to go with the opposite statement, that Gothmog really *is*
>>stronger.
>>Just have a look at Leo's little promotion tournament, not that many games of
>>course but it does begin to add up.
>
>Just a few games, and Frenzee didn't even play there.  :-)
>
>It is true that a recent version of Gothmog finished well ahead of a prehistoric
>version of Frenzee in division 2, but that can hardly be counted as an
>interesting
>data point.
>
>>>>>Most of the work has been on the endgame,
>>>
>>>Same thing here.
>>>
>>>>>but that's no good if the games are always decided before that :)
>>>
>>>Of course.  It seems to me that a very high percentage of comp-comp games
>>>are decided in the endgame, though.
>>
>>I think so too, that's one of the reasons I saw it as a priority.
>>
>>Another reason is that it's simpler in many cases to write endgame eval. There
>>are quite a lot of well known principles which can be written and tested for in
>>a pretty straight forward manner.
>
>I wish I could say the same, but unfortunately I find the endgame very
>difficult.
>There are lots of special cases, and adjusting the evaluation weights to make it
>all consistent is really tricky.

I think to look at fruit's source code to learn about it's evaluation.

Fruit nunn based rating increased from 2496 to 2642 based on the following link
http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/ratings/ratingsnunn2.htm

I understand that it is only thanks to better evaluation when it even has no
king safety evaluation.

Did you look at Fruit1.5's source code to learn about it's evaluation.

I still did not look much at it but I guess that the fastest way for improvement
should be to try to learn from it.

Uri




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