Author: Uri Blass
Date: 15:06:35 06/13/04
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On June 13, 2004 at 17:05:16, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >On June 13, 2004 at 15:20:48, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On June 13, 2004 at 11:42:50, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>>On June 13, 2004 at 07:50:25, Rex wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Once again we see Petr show his anti computer playing style. WHATS UP with >>>>these computer OP's. They obviously dont understand you just cant load the >>>>"defaults" and expect to win against GM's. There are Anti-Human settings that >>>>needs to be set in the personality editor if they expect to win. >>> >>> >>> The way Petr Kiriakov played this game was fine. It was not >>> a classical anti computer playing style. The GM cannot be >>> blamed for the wrong opening choice (Kings Indian) of Shredder8 >>> I think. But the game proved once again what I have already >>> mentioned many times: if GM's/IM's and even much lower rated >>> players use a boring style, it will hardly be possible for programs >>> to win a single game but computers will lose from time to time >>> and the ratings of chess programs will drop be 200-300 Elo. >> >> >>I think that 2 draws are not enough games to prove your theory. >> >>If a human go to a long match of 100 games and win few games without losses or >>even with a single loss then your point is proved. >> >>I think that every player at GM level has practical chances for 2 draws also in >>a match against kasparov or kramnik. >> >>Uri > > > Of course, two games do not mean much. But one thing is almost > clear to me: computers play a complete different chess than > humans. And as long humans play the usual style, it will be > very difficult to compete with the best programs. If humans > play a computer adapted style, the strongest programs will > have (in my opinion) much less success. On the other hand, > such a playing style may heavily hurt humans usual chess playing > style. What to do in this situation: GM's/IM's and other players > should only fight against computers for fun in order not to ruin > their chess abilities. > Kurt I do not see how it can ruin their chess ability. Humans can play in different style against different players. Humans do it against humans and may play different move dependent on the human opponent(they may decide to force a draw against stronger player when against weaker player they may decide not to go for a draw even if it means slightly inferior position). Humans may also decide about opening based on the situation Humans may decide to play 1.e4 c5 if they need a win for the GM norm with black and 1.e4 e5 if they need only a draw for the same target. Uri
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