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Subject: Re: Palestine Chess Programmers Price

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 08:19:00 06/14/04

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On June 14, 2004 at 09:20:35, Ingo Althofer wrote:

>This is a (more detailed) repetition of the price
>announcement, made on April 5, 2004 in "Chess Thinkers
>Forum".
>Please, help to spread the announcement.
>
>
>*****************************************
>*** Palestine Chess Programmers Price ***
>*****************************************
>To motivate Palestine programmers, I set
>up a price (with three levels):

Your motivation is not clear. If someone is born in Palestina, his natural
parents have residence there, but he practically lives in for example
Netherlands, does that count too?

You are going to exclude the only intelligent Palestinians alive?

>(1) 1,000 Euro for the first Palestine chess
>programmer whose baby gets more than 2,200
>rating points (equivalent to SSDF scaling).

So it must have a fritz8 book, learning, and another shitload of features before
it can compete. Without chessbase learning you are lost of course and will keep
on losing there more and more.

I hope you realize Crafty also uses fritz8.ctg at SSDF.

Without chessbase book and chessbase learning i'm not so sure whether crafty
would get much above 2200 there.

>(2) 1,000 Euro for the first Palestine chess
>programmer whose baby beats an Israeli program
>in an ICGA world championship.

Your only hope is Uri changing nationality :)

Mathematically i see no problems there :)

>(3) 1,000 Euro for the first Palestine chess
>programmer whose baby gets 50+ percent of the
>points in an ICGA world championship.

You can keep your money in your pocket. 50% is at most 1 point away from
unofficial 'amateur world champion'. that means a huge effort (if copying source
code from crafty is not allowed). You are not starting at such a project just to
win $1000. If you already write a chessprogram and by accident are Palestinian
*then* you would want such a price, but it trivially means the price is a side
effect for software getting produced anyway. Not a main motivator.

>Time limits:
>End of year 2007 for level (1),
>end of 2009 for level (2),
>end of 2011 for level (3).

>I feel that "proper" definition of "Palestine chess
>programmer" is not easy. Therefore, in the price I

printf("Hello from blowchess\n");
printf("We are not so advanced yet.\n");
printf("Therefore this is a manual chess program\n");
printf("Please make the best move for me yourself, so that i can win from
you\n");
printf("Thank you.\n");

>make the following artificial definition:
>"Applicants have to be Arabs, and they need to have
>permanent residence within 34° and 36° East, and
>within 28° and 34 ° North."
>Details on request from
>althofer "at" minet.uni-jena.de
>Legal measures are excluded.
>(In German: "Der Rechtsweg ist ausgeschlossen.")

Claims too with such conditions.

>Ingo Althofer.
>***************************************************
>
>
>--------------------- Comments ---------------------------
>(i) Leo Dijksman is willing to help with testing
>for the 2200 level. (So applicants do not need to
>have their programs in the SSDF list.)
>
>(ii) Amir Ban has written already in early April 2004:
>"... The day that Arabs decide to equal or better Israelis
>in competitive and intellectual achievements will also be
>the day the conflict ends."
>"...I'll double the price"

>(iii) Peter Berger has also offered help.
>---------------------------------------------------------



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