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Subject: Re: Palestine Chess Programmers Price

Author: Ingo Althofer

Date: 09:08:37 06/14/04

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On June 14, 2004 at 11:19:00, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>On June 14, 2004 at 09:20:35, Ingo Althofer wrote:
>>
>>*****************************************
>>*** Palestine Chess Programmers Price ***
>>*****************************************
>>To motivate Palestine programmers, I set
>>up a price (with three levels):
>
>Your motivation is not clear.

I want to encourage people to compete in intellectual
fields instead of fighting with stones, guns, and bombs.

> If someone is born in Palestina, his natural
> parents have residence there, but he practically lives in for example
> Netherlands, does that count too?

No, that does not count. Applicants have to live in Palestine/Israel.

>You are going to exclude the only intelligent Palestinians alive?

No.
You find intelligent Palestinians not only in Germany or in NL.


>>(1) 1,000 Euro for the first Palestine chess
>>programmer whose baby gets more than 2,200
>>rating points (equivalent to SSDF scaling).
>
>So it must have a fritz8 book, learning, and another shitload of features before
>it can compete. Without chessbase learning you are lost of course and will keep
>on losing there more and more.

Not neccesary.
And I would accept if a programm achieves the 2200+ in matches
where the other side has booklearning switched off.


>>(2) 1,000 Euro for the first Palestine chess
>>programmer whose baby beats an Israeli program
>>in an ICGA world championship.
>
>Your only hope is Uri changing nationality :)

Or, Vincent taking Israeli citizenship ;)


>Mathematically i see no problems there :)
>
>>(3) 1,000 Euro for the first Palestine chess
>>programmer whose baby gets 50+ percent of the
>>points in an ICGA world championship.
>
>You can keep your money in your pocket. 50% is at most 1 point away from
>unofficial 'amateur world champion'. that means a huge effort (if copying source
>code from crafty is not allowed). You are not starting at such a project just to
>win $1000.

Maybe, people get motivation for more, when they get the first or the second
prize.


>If you already write a chessprogram and by accident are Palestinian
>*then* you would want such a price, but it trivially means the price is a side
>effect for software getting produced anyway. Not a main motivator.
>
>>Time limits:
>>End of year 2007 for level (1),
>>end of 2009 for level (2),
>>end of 2011 for level (3).
>
>>I feel that "proper" definition of "Palestine chess
>>programmer" is not easy. Therefore, in the price I
>...
>>make the following artificial definition:
>>"Applicants have to be Arabs, and they need to have
>>permanent residence within 34° and 36° East, and
>>within 28° and 34 ° North."
>>Details on request from
>>althofer "at" minet.uni-jena.de
>>Legal measures are excluded.
>>(In German: "Der Rechtsweg ist ausgeschlossen.")
>
>Claims too with such conditions.

I don't get the meaning. Can you explain?

Ingo Althofer.



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