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Subject: Re: Palestine Chess Programmers Price

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 16:08:09 06/14/04

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On June 14, 2004 at 18:42:20, Omid David Tabibi wrote:

>On June 14, 2004 at 13:26:48, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On June 14, 2004 at 09:20:35, Ingo Althofer wrote:
>>
>>>This is a (more detailed) repetition of the price
>>>announcement, made on April 5, 2004 in "Chess Thinkers
>>>Forum".
>>>Please, help to spread the announcement.
>>>
>>>
>>>*****************************************
>>>*** Palestine Chess Programmers Price ***
>>>*****************************************
>>>To motivate Palestine programmers, I set
>>>up a price (with three levels):
>>>
>>>(1) 1,000 Euro for the first Palestine chess
>>>programmer whose baby gets more than 2,200
>>>rating points (equivalent to SSDF scaling).
>>>
>>>(2) 1,000 Euro for the first Palestine chess
>>>programmer whose baby beats an Israeli program
>>>in an ICGA world championship.
>>>
>>>(3) 1,000 Euro for the first Palestine chess
>>>programmer whose baby gets 50+ percent of the
>>>points in an ICGA world championship.
>>>
>>>Time limits:
>>>End of year 2007 for level (1),
>>>end of 2009 for level (2),
>>>end of 2011 for level (3).
>>>
>>>
>>>I feel that "proper" definition of "Palestine chess
>>>programmer" is not easy. Therefore, in the price I
>>>make the following artificial definition:
>>>"Applicants have to be Arabs, and they need to have
>>>permanent residence within 34° and 36° East, and
>>>within 28° and 34 ° North."
>>>
>>>Details on request from
>>>althofer "at" minet.uni-jena.de
>>>
>>>Legal measures are excluded.
>>>(In German: "Der Rechtsweg ist ausgeschlossen.")
>>>
>>>
>>>Ingo Althofer.
>>>***************************************************
>>>
>>>
>>>--------------------- Comments ---------------------------
>>>(i) Leo Dijksman is willing to help with testing
>>>for the 2200 level. (So applicants do not need to
>>>have their programs in the SSDF list.)
>>>
>>>(ii) Amir Ban has written already in early April 2004:
>>>"... The day that Arabs decide to equal or better Israelis
>>>in competitive and intellectual achievements will also be
>>>the day the conflict ends."
>>>"...I'll double the price"
>>>
>>>(iii) Peter Berger has also offered help.
>>>---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>Since I see the Palestinians under enormous suppression of Israel
>
>I wonder why there is no engine from any Arab country. Is it because other Arab
>countries are also "under enormous suppression of Israel"?


Good question. Let me explain.

a) Palestinians would normally live in close contact with Israel, they would
work in Israeli industries. They would use computers. Some would play even
computerchess. On that base some could become interested in programming.

b) Why there is no Japanese computerchess program? Because they dont have
computers? You bet! They dont have the chess culture. They develop other
programs. But Palestine would certainly profit from the usually highly
developped chess cuture of Jews/Israelis. Where is your problem to see that?

c) Why then the Arabs to examin your question? There is a lack of both too.
Chess and computers. Only the combination of both is the base for computerchess.
The answer is too easy to miss.

So yes, Palestine would normally be a favoured region for computerchess if they
could live in peace together with Israel. But at first you must live in houses
with water. In refugee camps you can play chess if you want but you wont be
interested in writing computerchess programs. Omid, please be not so arrogant,
you know how _you_ are able to be interested in that thing. Your talents are not
based on good will and myths.

BTW good luck for the next Wch.



>
>
>>and therefore
>>with a terrible economical disadvantage, in that context in culture and science
>>and therefore also computerchess, I want to support your idea with my personal
>>100 €! Good idea, Ingo! Respect.



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