Author: John Merlino
Date: 22:03:22 06/14/04
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On June 15, 2004 at 00:51:12, Steffen Jakob wrote: >On June 14, 2004 at 22:38:04, Mike Byrne wrote: > >>On June 14, 2004 at 22:24:15, Mike Byrne wrote: >> >>>The bottom position is from the Chess Informant anotations of the famous game 19 >>>of the Spassky - Petrosian match in 1969. A position from this game is Nolot # >>>5 >>> >>>[d]r2qrb1k/1p1b2p1/p2ppn1p/8/3NP3/1BN5/PPP3QP/1K3RR1 w - - >>> >>>and there is a recent thread regarding this game. >>> >>> >>> >>>I am pretty sure it is a forced mate starting with 1.... Rg5!! although I am >>>still awaiting confirmation. GM Geller provided this move in his annotations >>>,but he did not indicate it was mate. >>> >>>[d]r3rb1k/1p1b2p1/pq2p1Qp/8/4Np2/1B3N2/PPP4P/1K4R1 w - - 0 4 >>> >>>...Rg5! >> >>it mat not be an easily discovered forced mate -- Crafty is now seeing 1. ...Rg5 >>2. e5!? which may stop the forced mate , but clearly hangs the queen... > >I also get Rg5 e5 after a while (Hossa 1.163): > > 6 -0.01 0.18 40730 1.e4f6 b6xg1 2.g6xg1<check> g7xf6 3.g1d4 d7c6 > 4.d4xf6 Kh7<qs> 5.f6xf4<qs> > <6> -0.01 0.41 112371 1.e4f6 b6xg1 2.g6xg1<check> g7xf6 3.g1d4 d7c6 > 4.d4xf6 Kh7<qs> 5.f6xf4<qs> > 7 +0.09 0.46 126965 1.e4f6 b6xg1 2.f3xg1<check> g7xf6 3.g6xf6 >f8g7<check> > 4.f6xf4 Kg8 5.g1f3 > <7> +0.09 1.12 354597 1.e4f6 b6xg1 2.f3xg1<check> g7xf6 3.g6xf6 >f8g7<check> > 4.f6xf4 Kg8 5.g1f3 > 8 -0.13 1.31 405740 1.e4f6 b6xg1 2.g6xg1<check> g7xf6 3.g1d4 d7c6 > 4.d4xf6 f8g7<check> 5.f6xf4 a8c8 > <8> -0.13 7.81 2425441 1.e4f6 b6xg1 2.g6xg1<check> g7xf6 3.g1d4 d7c6 > 4.d4xf6 f8g7<check> 5.f6xf4 a8c8 > 9 -0.05 8.08 2508839 1.e4f6 b6xg1 2.f3xg1<check> g7xf6 3.g6xf6 >f8g7<check> > 4.f6xf4 e8f8 5.f4c1 f8f2 6.h4 > 2/9 +0.00 10.86 3387569 1.g1d1 d7c6 2.e4g5 h6xg5 3.f3xg5 c6e4 > 4.g5f7 Kg8<check> 5.f7h6<f2attack > Kh8<check> >6.h6f7 Kg8 > 7.f7h6 Kh8 8.h6f7 Kg8 > 7/9 +0.08 18.17 5697897 1.c3 d7c6 2.e4f6 b6xg1 3.f3xg1<check> g7xf6 > 4.g6xf6 f8g7<check> 5.f6xf4 Kh7 6.f4f7 >!16/9 +0.29 24.19 7538691 1.g1g5 >! 9 +2.11 25.93 8075555 1.g1g5 b6d8 2.f3e5 d8e7 3.e5f7 e7xf7<check> > 4.g6xf7 h6xg5 5.f7xd7 e8e7 > <9> +2.11 26.09 8135809 1.g1g5 b6d8 2.f3e5 d8e7 3.e5f7 e7xf7<check> > 4.g6xf7 h6xg5 5.f7xd7 e8e7 >? 10 +1.68 31.37 9936285 1.g1g5 b6d8 2.f3e5 d8e7 3.e5f7 e7xf7<check> > 4.g6xf7 h6xg5 5.f7xd7 e8e7 6.d7d4 > <10> +1.68 33.15 10587221 1.g1g5 b6d8 2.f3e5 d8e7 3.e5f7 e7xf7<check> > 4.g6xf7 h6xg5 5.f7xd7 e8e7 6.d7d4 >! 11 +2.10 45.15 14329678 1.g1g5 >! 11 +2.66 52.19 16457868 1.g1g5 b6d8 2.f3e5 d8e7 3.g5f5 d7c6 > 4.e5f7 e7xf7<check> 5.f5xf7 e5 6.e4d6 e8e7 > 7.f7xe7<qs> f8xe7<qs> > <11> +2.66 1:06 21627909 1.g1g5 b6d8 2.f3e5 d8e7 3.g5f5 d7c6 > 4.e5f7 e7xf7<check> 5.f5xf7 e5 6.e4d6 e8e7 > 7.f7xe7<qs> f8xe7<qs> >! 12 +3.08 2:02 38821542 1.g1g5 >! 12 +3.89 3:42 70587561 1.g1g5 b6d8 2.f3e5 d8e7 3.g5h5 d7c6 > 4.e4g5 e7xg5 5.g6xg5 f8d6 6.g5xf4 a8d8 > <12> +3.89 7:19 141019581 1.g1g5 b6d8 2.f3e5 d8e7 3.g5h5 d7c6 > 4.e4g5 e7xg5 5.g6xg5 f8d6 6.g5xf4 a8d8 > 13 +4.10 11:26 215801394 1.g1g5 b6d8 2.f3e5 d8e7 3.g5h5 d7c6 > 4.e4g5 e7xg5 5.g6xg5 f3 6.g5g3 f2 > 7.e5f7 Kh7<qs> 8.g3xf2<qs> > <13> +4.10 19:00 356405709 1.g1g5 b6d8 2.f3e5 d8e7 3.g5h5 d7c6 > 4.e4g5 e7xg5 5.g6xg5 f3 6.g5g3 f2 > 7.e5f7 Kh7<qs> 8.g3xf2<qs> >! 14 +4.52 34:49 647393678 1.g1g5 >! 14 +5.52 57:18 1078070888 1.g1g5 e5 2.g6xb6 d7c6 3.f3xe5 c6xe4 > 4.g5h5 Kh7 5.b3f7 e8xe5 6.h5xe5 e4c6 > 7.b6f2 g5 > >Greetings, >Steffen. Confirmed. CM_SKR on a P4-2.4 also says Rg5 e5: Time Depth Score Positions Moves 0:00 1/5 0.00 34043 4.Rd1 Bb5 5.Nfg5 hxg5 6.Nxg5 Bd3 7.Nf7+ Kg8 8.Nh6+ Kh8 9.Nf7+ 0:00 1/6 0.00 51839 4.Rd1 Bb5 5.Nfg5 hxg5 6.Nxg5 Bd3 7.Nf7+ Kg8 8.Nh6+ Kh8 9.Nf7+ 0:00 1/7 0.00 181358 4.Rd1 Bb5 5.Nfg5 hxg5 6.Nxg5 Bd3 7.Nf7+ Kg8 8.Nh6+ Kh8 9.Nf7+ 0:01 1/7 1.48 297321 4.Rg5 Qd8 5.Ne5 Qe7 6.Nf7+ Qxf7 7.Qxf7 hxg5 8.Nxg5 Bc5 9.Qxd7 0:02 1/8 2.82 665017 4.Rg5 Qd8 5.Ne5 Qe7 6.Rh5 Bc6 7.Ng5 Qxg5 8.Qxg5 0:06 1/9 3.17 1566010 4.Rg5 Qd8 5.Ne5 Qe7 6.Rh5 Rad8 7.Ng5 Qxg5 8.Qxg5 Bb5 9.Nf7+ Kg8 10.Qxd8 Rxd8 11.Nxd8 0:23 1/10 3.98 6085771 4.Rg5 e5 5.Qxb6 Bc6 6.Nxe5 Bxe4 7.Nf7+ Kh7 8.Nxh6 Bc6 9.Qa5 g6 10.Ng4 0:45 1/11 4.79 12322606 4.Rg5 e5 5.Qxb6 Bc6 6.Nxe5 Bxe4 7.Rh5 Rad8 8.Nf7+ Kh7 9.Nxd8 Bf3 10.Ne6 Bxh5 11.Nxf8+ Rxf8 12.Qxb7 1:55 1/12 5.13 31878699 4.Rg5 e5 5.Qxb6 Bc6 6.Nxe5 Bxe4 7.Rh5 Kh7 8.Bf7 Rad8 9.Kc1 Rd6 10.Qxd6 Bxd6 11.Bxe8 6:00 1/13 5.44 100551851 4.Rg5 e5 5.Qxb6 Bc6 6.Nxe5 Bxe4 7.Rh5 Kh7 8.Bf7 Rad8 9.Kc1 Rd6 10.Qb3 Re7 11.Bg8+ Kh8 12.Nf7+ Rxf7 13.Bxf7 19:34 2/14 5.92 330216676 4.Rg5 e5 5.Qxb6 Bc6 6.Nxe5 Bxe4 7.Nf7+ Kh7 8.Nxh6 g6 9.Ng4 Kh8 10.Qf2 Re7 11.Qxf4 Rd8 12.Ne3 1:06:39 3/15 6.41 1135890423 4.Rg5 e5 5.Qxb6 Bc6 6.Nxe5 Bxe4 7.Nf7+ Kh7 8.Nxh6 g6 9.Ng4 Rad8 10.Nf6+ Kh8 11.Kc1 Rd6 12.Qxd6 Bxd6 13.Nxe8 Be7 14.Re5 jm
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