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Subject: Re: Processor's

Author: Ingo Bauer

Date: 23:20:04 06/14/04

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On June 15, 2004 at 01:47:02, David Mitchell wrote:

>On June 14, 2004 at 21:25:48, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>
>>On June 14, 2004 at 21:07:03, David Mitchell wrote:
>>
>>>On June 14, 2004 at 20:43:04, Jim wrote:
>>>
>>>>In your opinion what is the best processor to have for chess programs?
>>>>I have noticed on the SSDF rating list that the Athlon 1200 is used
>>>>for the higher rated chess programs.
>>>>I also read at one time on this site that the Pentium processor's
>>>>do not perform as well with chess program's.
>>>>Your opinion is greatly appreciated.
>>>>Jim
>>>
>>>The "best" CPU for chess programs will depend on the program, but in general:
>>>
>>>1) Opteron
>>>2) Xeon
>>>3) Itanium
>>>4) Centrino
>>>5) Athlon
>>>6) Pentium III
>>>7) Pentium 4
>>>
>>>The above assumes ** equal speed ** of the processor (which is never the case),
>>>and the program being optimized for that processor. Even within a single CPU,
>>>different versions have different sizes of cache, etc., again changing their
>>>capability.
>>>
>>>After AMD's strong showing with their new Opteron, you know that Intel is
>>>working hard on a new 64 bit processor. When it is released, the list will
>>>certainly change.
>>>
>>>The above is my opinion, and certainly not the result of some exhaustive tests.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>
>>Current Xeon chips are P4's with more L2 cache and multiprocessor support. Their
>>performance in chess programs are identical to Pentium 4 chips. The older Xeon
>>with the P3 core is identical to the Pentium 3 in chess speed, etc.
>
>Respectfully disagree, Aaron. A processor with identical chip, but a larger L2
>cache, should definitely be a faster CPU for most chess programs, given the same
>clock speed, etc..
>
>Anytime you can limit time consuming fetches from main memory, you're speeding
>things up.

Sorry, but I have to disagree respectfully. The increase in speed for chess from
a Thunderbird-Athlon to a Barton-Athlon, or from 256 KB to 512KB was close to
nothing. (For sure less than 3%) The rest is marketing.

(OKOK, some Video-Hyper-Gaming-3D gadgets may be faster)

>
>Thanks for the info on the CPU cores, however.
>
>Dave

Bye Ingo



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