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Subject: Re: Palestine Chess Programmers Price

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 02:05:55 06/15/04

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On June 15, 2004 at 00:28:21, Ingo Althofer wrote:

>On June 14, 2004 at 16:25:23, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>On June 14, 2004 at 09:20:35, Ingo Althofer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>*****************************************
>>>*** Palestine Chess Programmers Price ***
>>>*****************************************
>>>...
>>>...
>>
>>A very good initiative. I sincerely hope there would be programmers who would
>>win the prize.
>
>Thanks for your moral support.
>
>
>>>"Applicants have to be Arabs, and they need to have
>>>permanent residence within 34° and 36° East, and
>>>within 28° and 34 ° North."
>>
>>These geographical coordinations also include Israel, and of course you wouldn't
>>consider an Arab who is living in Israel and has Israeli citizenship eligible,
>>as his program would officially be considered an Israeli program.
>
>Maybe I step in a pothole now or show big lack of understanding
>the "local" circumstances, but I want to allow citizens of Israel
>as long as they are non-jewish arabs.
>
>When this is nonsense, please explain why.

An Arab living in Israel isn't much difference from an Arab living in Germany or
Netherlands. And in another post I read that you don't consider an Arab living
in Netherlands eligible...


>
>Would it be politically correct to formulate
>"Applicants have to be non-jewish Arabs, and ..."?
>
>>So a better
>>definition would be: a person living in an area controlled by the Palestinian
>>Authority (or someone who holds a Palestinian Authority issued ID card). I think
>>that is the definition used by the International Olympic Committee.
>
>How many Palestinians have a "Palestinian Authority
>issued ID card"? Isn't it a fraction only?

More than three million Palestinians who live in West Bank and Gaza all have
Palestinian ID cards (in comparison to about one million Arabs who are Israeli
citizens).


>
>
>>Also, looking at Leo's list of engines
>>(http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/html/Total.html), I don't see any engine from an Arab
>>country (Hydra cannot be considered an Arab engine, as its author is Austrian).
>
>Hydra of course does not count.
>
>>I think it would be better if you extend your prize to the whole Arab world. The
>>following are the Arab countries (members of the Arab League):
>>
>>Algeria, Bahrain, Comoros, Djibouti, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon,
>>Libya, Mauritania, Morocco, Oman, Palestine (represented by PLO), Qatar, Saudi
>>Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia, United Arab Emirates, Yemen.
>
>No intention on my side for such an extension. There would
>be no chance for me to check what is happening in all these
>states.
>
>Ingo Althofer.



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