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Subject: Re: Palestine Chess Programmers Price

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 15:16:02 06/15/04

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On June 15, 2004 at 18:04:22, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On June 15, 2004 at 06:09:47, Andreas Herrmann wrote:
>
>>On June 15, 2004 at 05:20:14, Ingo Althofer wrote:
>>
>>>On June 15, 2004 at 02:59:38, Andreas Herrmann wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 15, 2004 at 02:10:31, Andreas Herrmann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 14, 2004 at 09:20:35, Ingo Althofer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>*****************************************
>>>>>>*** Palestine Chess Programmers Price ***
>>>>>>*****************************************
>>>>>>...
>>>
>>>>Just some other points:
>>>>1) Until 2007, the hardware is perhaps much faster than nowadays, which would
>>>>make it more easier to reach the 2200 ELO.
>>>
>>>It is fully intended that task (1) is the easiest, because
>>>"getting started is most difficult".
>>>
>>>
>>>>2) And perhaps until 2009 there are also some new Israeli chess programs, which
>>>>are much weaker than the three known of today.
>>>
>>>That would be almost a miracle.
>>>
>>>
>>>>3) So i think, the only realy hard level is perhaps level 3.
>>>>
>>>>And i think, to reach level 1, it would be enough to copy the search functions
>>>>of one of the above open sources and add some basic chess knowledge in the eval
>>>>functions. I'm sure 99% of all programmers on the world could reach that in a
>>>>few weeks, without knowing much about chess. It would be enough to know the
>>>>chess rules.
>>>>So i would set level 1 to 2400 or 2500 ELO, this would be a real level. I think
>>>>also my weak engine BlackBishop would reach level 1 at the moment. And i'm not a
>>>>chess player and have spent only a few hours per year in the last 5 years in the
>>>>development of my engine.
>>>>
>>>>If there is a Palestine programmer, who wants the money for level 1, i can write
>>>>him the program or the basic parts of the program ;-). And then we divide the
>>>>money. Because i have no job as a programmer since one and a halv year, 500€
>>>>would be realy much money for me ;-)
>>>
>>
>>
>>>Please, stay honest - and that is meant for all you senior programmers!
>>
>>off course Ingo, i hope you have seen my ";-)".
>>But i still say that level 1 is much to easy nowadays. Ok it's your money.
>>If someone would give each programmer 1000€ for a chess program which would
>>reach level 1 until the end of 2004, i'm sure we would have many hundreds or
>>perhaps many thousands of chess programs above 2200 ELO around the world then.
>>And believe me, to reach that, you don't need to know more than the chess rules.
>>Just some basic programmer knowledge and the ability to read english documents
>>is enough, because nearby all chess programming papers are written in english.
>>But all in all i like your project and hope a Palestine programmer will read
>>your offer and has the ability to develope a chess program. In each case, good
>>luck from me.
>>
>>Andreas
>
>Why not write one yourself to start with to proof there can be hundreds of
>german programs by end of 2004?

Maybe because you are not going to pay the poster 1000 euro for it.

Uri



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