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Subject: Re: Nolot #5 - 1:16 for Zappa

Author: Daniel Jackson

Date: 16:32:05 06/15/04

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On June 15, 2004 at 18:38:22, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On June 14, 2004 at 20:42:45, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>
>The problem we all have is getting such positions on the board, not so much
>finding that tactical trick to finish it :)

Actually this position is barely out of the opening. I have had such positions
and since you're a FM I'm certain you have too.
>
>>On June 14, 2004 at 18:11:17, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>
>>>On June 14, 2004 at 15:38:12, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>>
>>>>With todays top hardware/software, can the winning move e5!! be found?
>>>>
>>>>[D]r2qrb1k/1p1b2p1/p2ppn1p/8/3NP3/1BN5/PPP3QP/1K3RR1 w - - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>I think that these position tests are absolutely useless,
>>>an IM can draw a program, so who cares if it can find 'specific' moves
>>>
>>>if it doesn't have a 'game plan' and can only draw,
>>>
>>>whats the difference?
>>
>>Actually I'm pretty happy with this result.  This makes at least 5 of the 11
>>nolot positions that Zappa can solve in reasonable (a few hours) time.  Of
>>course, I am a long way from it playing the move over the board at tournament
>>time control!
>>
>>1. Nc3-e2 e6-e5 2. Nd4-f5 g7-g5 3. Bb3-f7 Bd7-e6 4. Bf7xe8 Qd8xe8 5. h2-h4 g5-g4
>>6. Nf5xh6 Bf8xh6 7. Rf1xf6 Bh6-g7 8. Rf6-f1 Qe8-a4 9. Ne2-c3
>> = (1.87)       Depth: 17/38    00:58:56.78     2666999kN
>>1. e4-e5 d6xe5 2. Nc3-e4 Nf6-h5 3. Qg2-g6 Nh5-f4 4. Rf1xf4 e5xf4 5. Nd4-f3
>>Qd8-b6 6. Rg1-g5 Qb6-d8 7. Nf3-e5 Qd8-e7 8. Ne5-f7 Kh8-g8 9. Ne4-f6 Qe7xf6 10.
>>Nf7xh6 Kg8-h8 11. Nh6-f7 Qf6xf7 12. Qg6xf7
>> = (2.28)       Depth: 17/34    01:16:27.50     3451482kN
>>
>>Positions like these show that (IMO) more depth is *always* better.  Maybe not a
>>lot better, but Zappa is still finding new tactics at 17 ply.
>>
>>anthony



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