Author: Steve Glanzfeld
Date: 13:49:28 06/16/04
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On June 15, 2004 at 17:28:38, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On June 15, 2004 at 16:26:09, Steve Glanzfeld wrote: > >>No normal program will choose an unusual move (i.e. a queen sac) "out of the >>blue" in a normal position. Except, the program is completely broken. >> >>You guys are argueing as if it would be DOWNRIGHT BAD when a chess program finds >>good moves (quickly)... I wonder what a chess program looks like, when it is >>based on that philosophy :)) Does it try to avoid the good moves? So, if there's >>a lack of success, the chances are good that we have found a major reason here >>:) >"I created a version that was tactical brilliant. It solved *everything* in the >testsuites. Then i started playing with it and it was hundreds of points weaker >in games." Stefan Meyer Kahlen a few months ago. No engine can solve everything in every testsuite. There are not only tactical tests, for example (big surprise eh? :))) > >So the answer to your question is: The version that scores hundreds of points >more onto testsuites is NOT the version to play with at tournaments, because in >testsuites all those patzermoves work as we know and they do not in tournaments. Again, don't you understand that those moves HAVE WORKED in games? :) These are World Champion's winning moves! What are you talking about "do not work in tournaments"...??? Which program, in several versions, do you think ranks #2, #5 and #7 in the WM test results? Shredder! :)) Note, that the version ranking #2 has the same number of solutions as the leader. Ranks #1/3/6/8/9/10 are Fritz versions. Next best are CM versions, Hiarcs 9, and Deep Juniors. At the bottom of the list we find oldies and weaker freeware. So, we find the same engines in the top of that test's ranking list (from a total of 230 results in the currently available download), which we do as well find in many ranking lists based on games. I wonder why some people here have so much trouble understanding or accepting this. Strange. Steve
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