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Subject: Re: questions about hardware for WCCC

Author: David Mitchell

Date: 07:14:22 06/17/04

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On June 17, 2004 at 10:02:37, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 17, 2004 at 09:52:42, David Mitchell wrote:
>
>>On June 17, 2004 at 09:27:02, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>1)Suppose that I bring a computer to the tournament and do not use a loan
>>>computer.
>>>
>>>I will probably do it
>>>
>>>Can I keep the computer there or do I need to carry it every day to my home
>>>and later carry it back to my home?
>>>
>>>2)I think that I will buy a computer from IBM and I am going for the faster
>>>single processor that I can get before WCCC.
>>>
>>>http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=-840&storeId=1&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73&categoryId=2588412
>>>
>>>I think to buy the computer that has a price of 3770$ in that list if I can get
>>>it before WCCC.
>>>
>>>
>>>I decided probably not to buy dual because other people test it with ponder on
>>>so I plan to use only ponder off in my tests and hope that everything is going
>>>to be ok because I do not change my pondering code.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I am not sure if I can get it before WCCC and I try to find out.
>>>I will not buy it if I cannot get it before WCCC(It seems that I assumed wrongly
>>>that the time that somebody in Israel can get a computer is the time that take
>>>to send a computer from USA to Israel in the worst case but people tell me that
>>>if IBM has not that computer in Israel it can take more time).
>>>
>>>IBM does not have this computer in Israel and if I need to wait more than 2
>>>weeks to get it I am not going to buy it and I guess that I will buy a cheaper
>>>computer from IBM and another computer from IBM with 2 processors for the same
>>>price.
>>>
>>>I decided not to buy dual processors and to concentrate on a single processor
>>>that is faster if I can do it.
>>>
>>>I can later add second processor if I want.
>>>
>>>3)People suggest me for the same price to buy more computers and I want to know
>>>what you suggest to do.
>>>
>>>Speed is important for me in WCCC and I am afraid that I am too late in buying
>>>the fastest computer.
>>>
>>>I decided that building a computer is not an option for me and I need somebody
>>>that I can trust who will teach me how to do it and I do not have somebody for
>>>that purpose.
>>>
>>>I want to know what you suggest and what is the best deal that I can get now
>>>for the same price that I need to pay for the computer that I plan to buy.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>Contact the organizer to be sure and get the right info on what you need to do
>>with the computer over-night.
>>
>>I like your choice of computer. It's very fast, even with one processor, but
>>allows for expansion to a dual, and updating to 64-bit computing OS, later on,
>>which is very good, imo.
>>
>>I don't understand your comment about "testing with pondering off, because the
>>others test with pondering on," etc.
>
>The point is that testing on one machine with ponder on is not reliable and
>without dual processor I do not plan to trust results that I get with ponder >on.

Yes, I see what you mean, now, and agree with it.
>
>Other people already test movei with ponder on and there are no significant
>problems.
>
>I did not buy dual processor because I did not want to waste money about it when
>there is a good chance that I will get it as a gift.

Yes, good decision, IMO.
>
>It is not clear if I will get it as a gift now because the prices of shipping it
>are higher than expected but I decided to waste the money on one processor and
>not on 2.

Since movei only uses one processor at this time, I think that's the right
decision.
>
>If I cannot get opteron on time then I will probably go for something cheaper
>than it and also something with 2 processors.
>
>Uri
If you can't get the opteron, I'd *rent* the best single CPU system, for now,
and then purchase the opteron, when I could.

You're going to want that opteron anyway for going to 64 bit, as well as going
to multi-processing, later. For a purchase, I'd stick with the opteron.

Dave



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