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Subject: Re: questions about hardware for WCCC

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:42:29 06/17/04

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On June 17, 2004 at 10:14:22, David Mitchell wrote:

>On June 17, 2004 at 10:02:37, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On June 17, 2004 at 09:52:42, David Mitchell wrote:
>>
>>>On June 17, 2004 at 09:27:02, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>1)Suppose that I bring a computer to the tournament and do not use a loan
>>>>computer.
>>>>
>>>>I will probably do it
>>>>
>>>>Can I keep the computer there or do I need to carry it every day to my home
>>>>and later carry it back to my home?
>>>>
>>>>2)I think that I will buy a computer from IBM and I am going for the faster
>>>>single processor that I can get before WCCC.
>>>>
>>>>http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=-840&storeId=1&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73&categoryId=2588412
>>>>
>>>>I think to buy the computer that has a price of 3770$ in that list if I can get
>>>>it before WCCC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I decided probably not to buy dual because other people test it with ponder on
>>>>so I plan to use only ponder off in my tests and hope that everything is going
>>>>to be ok because I do not change my pondering code.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I am not sure if I can get it before WCCC and I try to find out.
>>>>I will not buy it if I cannot get it before WCCC(It seems that I assumed wrongly
>>>>that the time that somebody in Israel can get a computer is the time that take
>>>>to send a computer from USA to Israel in the worst case but people tell me that
>>>>if IBM has not that computer in Israel it can take more time).
>>>>
>>>>IBM does not have this computer in Israel and if I need to wait more than 2
>>>>weeks to get it I am not going to buy it and I guess that I will buy a cheaper
>>>>computer from IBM and another computer from IBM with 2 processors for the same
>>>>price.
>>>>
>>>>I decided not to buy dual processors and to concentrate on a single processor
>>>>that is faster if I can do it.
>>>>
>>>>I can later add second processor if I want.
>>>>
>>>>3)People suggest me for the same price to buy more computers and I want to know
>>>>what you suggest to do.
>>>>
>>>>Speed is important for me in WCCC and I am afraid that I am too late in buying
>>>>the fastest computer.
>>>>
>>>>I decided that building a computer is not an option for me and I need somebody
>>>>that I can trust who will teach me how to do it and I do not have somebody for
>>>>that purpose.
>>>>
>>>>I want to know what you suggest and what is the best deal that I can get now
>>>>for the same price that I need to pay for the computer that I plan to buy.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>Contact the organizer to be sure and get the right info on what you need to do
>>>with the computer over-night.
>>>
>>>I like your choice of computer. It's very fast, even with one processor, but
>>>allows for expansion to a dual, and updating to 64-bit computing OS, later on,
>>>which is very good, imo.
>>>
>>>I don't understand your comment about "testing with pondering off, because the
>>>others test with pondering on," etc.
>>
>>The point is that testing on one machine with ponder on is not reliable and
>>without dual processor I do not plan to trust results that I get with ponder >on.
>
>Yes, I see what you mean, now, and agree with it.
>>
>>Other people already test movei with ponder on and there are no significant
>>problems.
>>
>>I did not buy dual processor because I did not want to waste money about it when
>>there is a good chance that I will get it as a gift.
>
>Yes, good decision, IMO.
>>
>>It is not clear if I will get it as a gift now because the prices of shipping it
>>are higher than expected but I decided to waste the money on one processor and
>>not on 2.
>
>Since movei only uses one processor at this time, I think that's the right
>decision.
>>
>>If I cannot get opteron on time then I will probably go for something cheaper
>>than it and also something with 2 processors.
>>
>>Uri
>If you can't get the opteron, I'd *rent* the best single CPU system, for now,
>and then purchase the opteron, when I could.
>
>You're going to want that opteron anyway for going to 64 bit, as well as going
>to multi-processing, later. For a purchase, I'd stick with the opteron.
>
>Dave

Another question is if I can get internet time on that computer in WCCC.
I used a computer that is not mine in the last CCT tournament.

If somebody can promise me that I can get computer time in the internet on the
opteron even if I have not that opteron then it may also encourage me to buy the
opteron.

For now the person that is responsible for asking for it asked 2 people who deal
with importing computers and I hope that the opteron is in the stock in Israel.

He asked by email and he expect that I will get a reply only on sunday.

Uri



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