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Subject: Re: questions about hardware for WCCC

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 08:29:45 06/17/04

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On June 17, 2004 at 11:24:23, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 17, 2004 at 11:09:16, Joachim Rang wrote:
>
>>On June 17, 2004 at 09:27:02, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>1)Suppose that I bring a computer to the tournament and do not use a loan
>>>computer.
>>>
>>>I will probably do it
>>>
>>>Can I keep the computer there or do I need to carry it every day to my home
>>>and later carry it back to my home?
>>>
>>>2)I think that I will buy a computer from IBM and I am going for the faster
>>>single processor that I can get before WCCC.
>>>
>>>http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=-840&storeId=1&langId=-1&dualCurrId=73&categoryId=2588412
>>>
>>>I think to buy the computer that has a price of 3770$ in that list if I can get
>>>it before WCCC.
>>>
>>>
>>>I decided probably not to buy dual because other people test it with ponder on
>>>so I plan to use only ponder off in my tests and hope that everything is going
>>>to be ok because I do not change my pondering code.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I am not sure if I can get it before WCCC and I try to find out.
>>>I will not buy it if I cannot get it before WCCC(It seems that I assumed wrongly
>>>that the time that somebody in Israel can get a computer is the time that take
>>>to send a computer from USA to Israel in the worst case but people tell me that
>>>if IBM has not that computer in Israel it can take more time).
>>>
>>>IBM does not have this computer in Israel and if I need to wait more than 2
>>>weeks to get it I am not going to buy it and I guess that I will buy a cheaper
>>>computer from IBM and another computer from IBM with 2 processors for the same
>>>price.
>>>
>>>I decided not to buy dual processors and to concentrate on a single processor
>>>that is faster if I can do it.
>>>
>>>I can later add second processor if I want.
>>>
>>>3)People suggest me for the same price to buy more computers and I want to know
>>>what you suggest to do.
>>>
>>>Speed is important for me in WCCC and I am afraid that I am too late in buying
>>>the fastest computer.
>>>
>>>I decided that building a computer is not an option for me and I need somebody
>>>that I can trust who will teach me how to do it and I do not have somebody for
>>>that purpose.
>>>
>>>I want to know what you suggest and what is the best deal that I can get now
>>>for the same price that I need to pay for the computer that I plan to buy.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>Hi Uri,
>>
>>I would strongly suggest to buy a cheaper system. There is an Athlon 64 3200+
>
>
>Is the athlon64 3200+ significantly better than the PIV that I can get as loaned
>computer?
>
>
>>with 512 KB 2nd level cache and 2.2 Ghz clockspeed available for about 300 $. An
>>Opteron 150 or an FX-53 will be probably not faster than 10%.
>
>The opteron that I think to buy is only opteron148.
>I do not think that I can get opteron150 and at least the link does not suggest
>it.
>
>Are you sure that the difference is smaller than 10%.
>
>I thought that opteron is always better than athlon(otherwise I do not
>understand why selling opteron1.8 ghz is 2488$ based on the link when the
>Athlon64 is significantly cheaper).
>
>1.8ghz is more than 10% less than 2.2ghz so your words suggest that
>athlon64 3200ghz is both cheaper and faster than the opteron244 1.8ghz.
>
>If this is the case then what is the reason to buy opteron1.8ghz?
>
>I am interested in the number of nodes per second that public movei get in the
>opening position with the athlon.
>
>I remember impressive results of slater with the opteron and I have no idea if
>the athlon can get close to it.
>
>Uri

Here is slater results:
http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=364613

Can you get above 600 Knodes per second with athlon64 3200?

Uri



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