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Subject: Re: Processor's

Author: Anthony Cozzie

Date: 12:17:23 06/17/04

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On June 17, 2004 at 13:34:33, Eugene Nalimov wrote:

>On June 17, 2004 at 13:29:02, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>
>>On June 17, 2004 at 13:20:40, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>
>>>On June 17, 2004 at 06:55:18, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>[...]
>>>>
>>>>Please list the processors in order of L2 cache speed and you'll realize that
>>>>speed still is of overwhelming importance. List them at random access speed for
>>>>L2 cache (some processors are faster in streaming than random access in their
>>>>caches like P4).
>>>>
>>>>Basically opteron has fastest L2 cache which can deliver each 13 cycles data (4
>>>>reads simultaneously even if i understand well). No other processor can deliver
>>>>data from L2 cache that fast.
>>>
>>>Intel Itanium 2 Processor Reference Manual For Software Development and
>>>Optimization, Table 6-4 "Cache Summary":
>>>
>>>Itanium2 cache latency:
>>>  L1: 1 cycle, 4 loads/cycle
>>>  L2: 5 cycles (integer loads), 4 loads/cycle
>>>  L3: 12/14 cycles, depending on cache size (integer loads), 1 load/cycle
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Eugene
>>>
>>
>>Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't Itanium's caches off by 1?  In other words,
>>the 6MB cache on the Itanium is L3, and the L1 cache is like 1KB?
>
>L1D: 16KB
>L1I: 16KB
>L2:  256KB
>L3:  1.5/3/6MB

That's not as bad as I thought.  But it makes me wonder even more why Itanium
isn't clocked higher.  With a VLIW core, they should save like 40% of their die
due to not having an issue queue & parallel logic etc.  When combined with a
small L1, they should really be clocked at pentium 4 speeds, yet they are much
slower than Opteron.

anthony



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