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Subject: Re: Processor's

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 16:45:53 06/17/04

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Your intel friend disagrees with the older handbooks posted there.

I guess you worked for the older McKinley which by the way was called back to
factory for having defects (last X bits of it could randomly go wrong in
floating point when processors >= 900Mhz).

The todays processors are Madisons.

www.sara.nl for the lecture of Jason Priestly (Intel) about their caches and the
Madison processor. It quotes 17 cycles for L3 and 7 cycles for L2.

That makes it effectively slower than Opteron of course which soon is in 0.09
and will hit for a cheap price very high speeds.

I wonder how you still try to manage to compete with a 16KB cache which can just
hold very few bundles against a 64KB cache of opteron.

Practical difference is and remains that opteron is 2 times faster than Madison.
One of the reasons is a better L1 & L2 cache.

Trivially you cannot see the L2 cache of the Itanium as a L2 cache, the L1 cache
is so small, if you bite the cpu the L2 cache dissappears without a trace in a
back tooth.

So it's the L3 cache which must compete with it.

Please do a test with an itanium2 without L3 cache, then you *will* know why
this comment gets made.

Without L3 cache which limits the cpu for sure < 2Ghz in 0.13, it is worse than
a Celeron!






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