Author: Dan Kiski
Date: 00:26:22 12/22/98
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On December 22, 1998 at 01:36:52, Ralph E. Carter wrote: >On December 22, 1998 at 01:00:07, Komputer Korner wrote: > >>On December 21, 1998 at 10:28:07, Dan Kiski wrote: >> >>> >>>I read the review of MChessPro8 at >>>http://www.icdchess.com/wccr/software/MChess8/kk.html >>>the last paragraph reads; >>>"So where does this leave us with a recommendation? Well, its price of $59 U.S. >>>is the same as Rebel 10. The reason to buy M-Chess Pro 8 is to obtain the >>>strongest chess playing program against humans. Of course Rebel 10 (with it's >>>strength against humans being almost on a par with M-Chess Pro 8 and with many >>>more features) gets the nod but again if you want the absolute strongest then >>>M-Chess Pro 8 is for you". >>> >>>Reading KK's opinion that MChessPro8 is stronger in terms of playing strength >>>than Rebel 10 does he have game scores that indicate this?, what caused him to >>>have this opinion?. Does KK have any idea if the engine is the same as the one >>>in MChessPro 7.1. >>> >>>Thx in advance, >>> >>>Dan Kiski. >> >>The engine is stronger. After playing against it and watching it play against >>2200 players and watching version 7 play against IMs, I conclude that it is so >>aggressive that even though it is not completely sound in its play, it's >>aggressivity and sacrificing make it a tougher opponent against humans than >>Rebel 10 at anything longer than blitz chess. Rebel 10 is more sound but it is >>easier to finally out manoever Rebel 10 if the human has enough time. However >>M-Chess seems to give the human no chance. It's style of play is more fun to >>play against also. Of course the difference in strength against humans isn't >>much. >>-- >>Komputer Korner > >Let me qualify KK's phrase "not completely sound". >MCP8 plays positional sacrifices more often than any of my other programs. >It is exceedingly impressive at this, both for finding the idea, and in the >follow-up. Always against me, and almost always against computers, the increase >in its chances, and/or the disorganization of the opponent, seems worth the >material. The degree of doubt about its soundness is comparable to the doubt >about any strong master's positional sacrifices. > >I've studied computer-computer games in which MCP8 sacs have been refuted, and >some in which they are not. > >On balance, MCP8's active style is a BIG plus. > >Further, it has settings for creating custom styles: aggression, mobility, pawn >structure, etc., and piece values. VERY interesting! > >mongrel >1803 USCF Any idea if the default settings for custom styles in MCP8 are best as in what has been going on here with CM6K and the CM6555, or have you tried any other settings and obtained better results.....thx in advance
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