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Subject: Re: Processor's

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 03:33:55 06/18/04

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On June 17, 2004 at 21:39:26, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>On June 17, 2004 at 14:35:11, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On June 17, 2004 at 12:47:51, Dan Honeycutt wrote:
>>
>>>On June 16, 2004 at 18:45:02, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>In Quake3 for example.. my Epox 8RDA with a Duron 600 running at 600MHz got
>>>>identical FPS to a Celeron 2.4GHz, this was with the same ram and videocard.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I ask from ignorance, but it would seem FPS for Quake is a considerably
>>>different animal than NPS for chess - much more memory involved w/FPS.  Can you
>>>make a valid assumption on how a processor would do for chess based on how it
>>>does for Quake?
>>>
>>>Dan H.
>>
>>You cannot.
>>
>>Better watch aceshardware.com, diep is getting tested there by Johan de Gelas.
>>
>>He is a very acurate tester. Note he doesn't always mention how many threads he
>>tests nor the memory. Default all hardware there has all memory banks filled
>>with cas2 memory. Filling all memory banks makes a huge difference for stronger
>>chessprograms nowadays.
>>
>>Slate here is not in objective business, but in overclocking and bad comparision
>>business.
>
>What does Slate have to do with this conversation? Or in all your spectacular
>brilliance did you forget who wrote the message?

Apologies to Slate!

I meant the always objective Gordon.

>
>Also, show some results where all filled banks of memory gain a 'huge'
>improvement for 'stronger' chess programs. Filled banks won't gain a huge
>improvement for the weaker ones? :P They won't gain an advantage for *any* chess
>program.

In general my statement is true. Test it yourself whether TSCP profits more from
faster RAM than Shredder. The reason for this is trivial but not that anyone
cares.

Using games software type Quake or Half Life 2 to prove things about
chessprograms is not very clever.

Note that i test a lot but simply don't post it at CCC and won't post it either.




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