Author: Ralph E. Carter
Date: 02:45:38 12/22/98
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On December 22, 1998 at 03:26:22, Dan Kiski wrote: >On December 22, 1998 at 01:36:52, Ralph E. Carter wrote: > >>On December 22, 1998 at 01:00:07, Komputer Korner wrote: >> >>>On December 21, 1998 at 10:28:07, Dan Kiski wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>I read the review of MChessPro8 at >>>>http://www.icdchess.com/wccr/software/MChess8/kk.html >>>>the last paragraph reads; >>>>"So where does this leave us with a recommendation? Well, its price of $59 U.S. >>>>is the same as Rebel 10. The reason to buy M-Chess Pro 8 is to obtain the >>>>strongest chess playing program against humans. Of course Rebel 10 (with it's >>>>strength against humans being almost on a par with M-Chess Pro 8 and with many >>>>more features) gets the nod but again if you want the absolute strongest then >>>>M-Chess Pro 8 is for you". >>>> >>>>Reading KK's opinion that MChessPro8 is stronger in terms of playing strength >>>>than Rebel 10 does he have game scores that indicate this?, what caused him to >>>>have this opinion?. Does KK have any idea if the engine is the same as the one >>>>in MChessPro 7.1. >>>> >>>>Thx in advance, >>>> >>>>Dan Kiski. >>> >>>The engine is stronger. After playing against it and watching it play against >>>2200 players and watching version 7 play against IMs, I conclude that it is so >>>aggressive that even though it is not completely sound in its play, it's >>>aggressivity and sacrificing make it a tougher opponent against humans than >>>Rebel 10 at anything longer than blitz chess. Rebel 10 is more sound but it is >>>easier to finally out manoever Rebel 10 if the human has enough time. However >>>M-Chess seems to give the human no chance. It's style of play is more fun to >>>play against also. Of course the difference in strength against humans isn't >>>much. >>>-- >>>Komputer Korner >> >>Let me qualify KK's phrase "not completely sound". >>MCP8 plays positional sacrifices more often than any of my other programs. >>It is exceedingly impressive at this, both for finding the idea, and in the >>follow-up. Always against me, and almost always against computers, the increase >>in its chances, and/or the disorganization of the opponent, seems worth the >>material. The degree of doubt about its soundness is comparable to the doubt >>about any strong master's positional sacrifices. >> >>I've studied computer-computer games in which MCP8 sacs have been refuted, and >>some in which they are not. >> >>On balance, MCP8's active style is a BIG plus. >> >>Further, it has settings for creating custom styles: aggression, mobility, pawn >>structure, etc., and piece values. VERY interesting! >> >>mongrel >>1803 USCF > >Any idea if the default settings for custom styles in MCP8 are best as in what >has been going on here with CM6K and the CM6555, or have you tried any other >settings and obtained better results.....thx in advance I have not experimented with them yet. Interestingly, its material values are 100,325,350,550,1000.
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