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Subject: Re: FIDE chess laws

Author: Günther Simon

Date: 15:26:11 06/18/04

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On June 18, 2004 at 18:02:03, Peter Fendrich wrote:

>On June 18, 2004 at 17:46:30, Günther Simon wrote:
>
>>On June 18, 2004 at 17:33:41, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>>
>>>On June 18, 2004 at 17:29:43, Günther Simon wrote:
>>>
>>>>*9.2  The game is drawn, upon a correct claim by the player having the move,
>>>>when the same position, for at least the third time (not necessarily by
>>>>sequential repetition of moves)
>>>>
>>>>is about to appear, if he first writes his move on his scoresheet and declares
>>>>to the arbiter his intention to make this move, or
>>>>
>>>>has just appeared, and the player claiming the draw has the move.
>>>>
>>>>Positions as in (a) and (b) are considered the same, if the same player has the
>>>>move, pieces of the same kind and colour occupy the same squares, and the
>>>>possible moves of all the pieces of both players are the same.
>>>>Positions are not the same if a pawn that could have been captured en passant
>>>>can no longer be captured or if the right to castle has been changed temporarily
>>>>or permanently.*
>>>
>>>BTW. How can the right to castle change temporarily, when the position is the
>>>same otherwise?
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Dieter
>>
>>Well, really not very probable but easy to construct i.e.:
>>
>>[Event "RWBC"]
>>[Site "ESPRESSO"]
>>[Date "2004.05.26"]
>>[Round "1"]
>>[White "GS"]
>>[Black "Test"]
>>[Result "*"]
>>
>>1.e4 e5 2.f4 exf4 3.Lc4 Sf6 4.Sf3 Le7 5.0-0 Sc6 6.Kf2 Sb8 7.Th1 Sc6 8.Ke1 Sb8
>>9.Kf2 Sc6 10.Te1 Sb8 11.Th1 Sc6 12.Ke1 Sb8 *
>>
>>Regards,
>>Günther
>
>I don't understand what you're doing here Günther!
>First it's a draw after 11.Rh1
>and the castling rights are not 'temporarily' changed
>but 'permanently'...
>
>I don't think it's possible to get 'temporarily' changed castling rights under
>the given conditions.
>
>/Peter
>/Peter

Yes it seems it was a language problem, I simply assumed they (FIDE)
meant *changed* castling rights. Dieter and you are right that the
attribute *temporarily* in its usual meaning can't be applied here.

Regards,
Günther



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