Author: Mark R. Anderson
Date: 11:08:19 06/19/04
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On June 18, 2004 at 19:20:31, mike tubbs wrote: >On June 18, 2004 at 17:31:26, George Tsavdaris wrote: > >>On June 18, 2004 at 17:01:35, mike tubbs wrote: >> >>>On June 18, 2004 at 16:18:12, Daniel Jackson wrote: >>> >>>>On June 18, 2004 at 14:35:48, John Merlino wrote: >>>> >>>>>On June 18, 2004 at 14:31:56, Daniel Jackson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On June 18, 2004 at 13:25:50, mike tubbs wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The author of this amazing engine in my opinion has created a style very >>>>>>>similar to Mikhail Tal and Garry Kasparov. Has anyone else noticed this? One of >>>>>>>the Signitures of CM6000 style is the pawn sacrifice, which is usually for >>>>>>>active piece play. Many here speak of Rebel and Hiarcs as the most human like >>>>>>>programs, actually i think CM6000 deserves this singular honour. I also like >>>>>>>CM9000 but it plays alot less risky then CM6000 and doesn't sacrifice material >>>>>>>as much. >>>>>> >>>>>>You know that Johan de Koning wrote 4000, 5000, 6000, 8000, and 9000, all based >>>>>>on the King program, don't you? >>>>> >>>>>Don't forget 5500, 7000 and the upcoming 10th Edition. :-) >>>>> >>>>>But that doesn't mean that there couldn't have been significant changes in the >>>>>playing style of the engine between versions. >>>>> >>>>>jm >>>> >>>>Oh I didn't forget, there was a small upgrade between 5000, and 5500. CM7K was >>>>basically 6K with a new interface. >>>> >>>>I think Chessmaster/King Program is very tactical, one of the best and the King >>>>of spotting mates, but not the most human of all engines and certainly not Tal.. >>>>it would get into trouble with unsound sacs!;-) >>>> >>>>Daniel >>> >>> >>> I guess it's just a matter of opinion, I think it's better then tal and didn't >>>make the same unsound sacrifices he did, if tal was to play his crap on >>>chessmaster he would have gotten rolled, but i'm sure he is smart enough not to >>>try his crap against it. >> >> >>His crap?????? You are kidding right? > > It's well known that tal made alot of unsound sacrifices, thus the expression >"his Crap"! Many, many millions of chess players all over the world love and revere Mikhail Tal, but who cares about CM6000? Nobody. I don't even know anyone who uses CM6000 anymore .... it's a forgotten engine, but Mikhail Tal's memory lives on. That says it all. Please don't compare the moves and games of a genius with a second-rate computer program. (Yes, second rate ... there are dozens now that are better.) Did CM6000 ever win any world championships, computer or otherwise? No ... but Tal did. Did CM6000 ever win any (noncomputer)tournaments? Not to my knowledge, but Tal won many. Please don't compare Tal to an obsolete software. Tal in his heyday would have found a way to crush CM6000 ... "sound" or otherwise. Many of the great "unsound" sacrifices of Tal are difficult for computers to refute ... the refutations are often beyond their "search horizon." Many of the computers, being materialistic by nature, would have tumbled headlong into Tal's deep traps and schemes. A few moves later, the computer would have finally spotted its problems ... too late (just like his human opponents).
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