Author: Joachim Rang
Date: 02:51:40 06/21/04
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On June 21, 2004 at 05:24:33, Uri Blass wrote: >I talk with a person and he tells me that Xeon2 is new technology and it is >better than opteron but it simply does not fit the price that I agree to pay for >it. > >He tells me that there are graphs that tell that Xeon2 is better. >When I tell him that people in this forum told me that pentium4 is relatively >bad he tells me that he does not trust them(note that he does not deal with >chess programs). > that's the point. Xeons are fine for certain applications and in generally I would say not worse than Opterons (but not better neither and much more expansive). For certain applications Xeons will outperform Opterons significantly and for others (such as chess programs) Opterons will outperform Xeons significantly. That is what all people in that board are telling you, so no need to ask other people who know nothing about chess performance. >He also claims that the Athlon64 is the same quality as the pentium4 that I can >get. >He agrees that the opteron is better than normal pentium4 that I can get. > this is all wrong. You can't no more make such general statements, since the performance for different purposes very widely. In general the P4 has also its merits and performs in some multimedia applciation very well, but for chess... >I am interested to know if there is some graph that shows that the opteron and >even the athlon64 is better than the xeon2. > look at the benchmarks given in this board and here: http://www.beepworld.de/members39/computerschach2/chessmarks.htm >Note that I probably decided to go for the opteron and not for the athlon >because people tell me that I cannot get responsibility for the athlon64 and are >against it. > What does that mean? The guarantee is the same, why you can't get responsibility for an AMD 64? An Opteron is SMP-capable an AMD64 not, but in a single configuration an AMD64 will perform equal to an Opteron (for chess!). >Hopefully I can also get opteron248 in the next 2 weeks for the tournament with >responsibility not directly from IBM with a cheaper price. > >Uri I don't think so, but feel free to try. My advice would be, got to your local computer store and let you assmble a system with the new AMD 64 3200 whith smaller cache but clocked 2.2 GHz, get 2 GB of RAM a good mainboard, two 160 GB-IDE-Disks in Raid-configuration and the rest won't matter for 1500 - 1800 $. regards Joachim
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