Author: Uri Blass
Date: 03:14:58 06/21/04
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On June 21, 2004 at 05:51:40, Joachim Rang wrote: >On June 21, 2004 at 05:24:33, Uri Blass wrote: > >>I talk with a person and he tells me that Xeon2 is new technology and it is >>better than opteron but it simply does not fit the price that I agree to pay for >>it. >> >>He tells me that there are graphs that tell that Xeon2 is better. >>When I tell him that people in this forum told me that pentium4 is relatively >>bad he tells me that he does not trust them(note that he does not deal with >>chess programs). >> > >that's the point. Xeons are fine for certain applications and in generally I >would say not worse than Opterons (but not better neither and much more >expansive). > >For certain applications Xeons will outperform Opterons significantly and for >others (such as chess programs) Opterons will outperform Xeons significantly. >That is what all people in that board are telling you, so no need to ask other >people who know nothing about chess performance. > > >>He also claims that the Athlon64 is the same quality as the pentium4 that I can >>get. >>He agrees that the opteron is better than normal pentium4 that I can get. >> > >this is all wrong. You can't no more make such general statements, since the >performance for different purposes very widely. In general the P4 has also its >merits and performs in some multimedia applciation very well, but for chess... > >>I am interested to know if there is some graph that shows that the opteron and >>even the athlon64 is better than the xeon2. >> > >look at the benchmarks given in this board and here: > >http://www.beepworld.de/members39/computerschach2/chessmarks.htm As far as I can see the leader is xeon and not athlon and the xeon is more than twice faster in nps than second place so the reason is not having 2 processors against one. > > >>Note that I probably decided to go for the opteron and not for the athlon >>because people tell me that I cannot get responsibility for the athlon64 and are >>against it. >> > >What does that mean? The guarantee is the same, why you can't get responsibility >for an AMD 64? I do not know. People tell me that I can get responsibility only for parts and not for all the computer but I agree that if I go for opteron248 not from IBM there is the same problem. I still did not buy opteron with the same speed with responsibility only for the parts. It probably can cost me near 2000$ instead of total price near 5000$ that was for opteron directly from IBM(I still do not know the total price and people try to get details for me). Uri
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