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Subject: Re: Endgame Testposition (easy for some, hard for others)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:25:05 06/21/04

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On June 21, 2004 at 10:57:21, Jaime Benito de Valle Ruiz wrote:

>In this position, engines such as Crafty or Fruit need to reach depths of about
>13 (15-30 secs on an Athlon 1800+) before they find the winning, while many
>other (even amateur) engines show very high scores from depth 1:
>


What Crafty version are you running?  all the recent versions see that this is
winning for black instantly, starting at ply=1:

              depth   time  score   variation (1)
                1     0.00  -5.73   1. ... Qxd5 2. cxd5
                1->   0.00  -5.73   1. ... Qxd5 2. cxd5
                2     0.00  -5.83   1. ... Qxd5 2. cxd5 Kg8
                2->   0.00  -5.83   1. ... Qxd5 2. cxd5 Kg8
                3     0.00     -1   1. ... Qxd5
                3     0.00  -5.38   1. ... Qxd5 2. cxd5 Kg8 3. d6
                3->   0.01  -5.38   1. ... Qxd5 2. cxd5 Kg8 3. d6
                4     0.01  -5.68   1. ... Qxd5 2. cxd5 Kg8 3. d6 Kf7
                4->   0.01  -5.68   1. ... Qxd5 2. cxd5 Kg8 3. d6 Kf7



>[d]7k/6p1/1p6/p2Q4/2P1qPKP/8/8/8 b - - 0 50
>
>After the queen exchange this is the position:
>
>[d]7k/6p1/1p6/p2P4/5PKP/8/8/8 b - - 0 51
>
>White cannot stop the passed pawn on a, but the black king can stop the d-one.
>Why some evals work better than others here?

It appears that somehow your test is flawed, as crafty's static eval says black
is winning here...


>
>Jaime



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